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– DRAFT –
Invisible XML Community Group

26 May 2026

Attendees

Present
Alan, Alex, David, Giovanni, Huy, John, Nico, Steven, Vasco
Regrets
Norm
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Meeting minutes

Welcome to ixml Delft group

Steven: They are 5 people on a 10 week project to implement ixml in Rust.
… now about half way.

Accept the minutes of the previous meeting

[No objections]

Review of open actions

Steven: Nothing to report on actions

Status reports

John: Workbench has added download capabilities.
… also not yet released but implemented attributes revealing location of the source text.

Steven: I've submitted my paper to Prague on state of play and developments in this group
… I will also be doing a tutorial on use cases of ixml

Steven: And now Delft

Giovanni: working on error reporting

Huy: Command line interface

Vasco: Building the parse forest, and SPPF

Alex: Parsing, and integration of test suite

Steven: One other person, David, doing parsing

Alex: No insertions currently
… Working on serialisation.
… doing all the current development spec.
… Vasco is working on the not operator
… other finding small issues

John: You're working on the parsing of the grammar. Is this via a bootstrap, or hardcoded?

Giovanni: Hardcoded

John: I agree that it's the easiest way
… I encourage you to parse grammars for transformation, and also accept XML format trees in the future

Alex: I've figured out how the test suite works, but it could be better documented (IMHO)
… some tests don't match the description
… this seems to be about what the test is actually testing
… today I figured out the test catalogue
… I could have benefitted by more description.

ACTION: Steven to add "test Documentation" as an issue when Codeberg is ready

John: We use a method that we were already familiar with
… many tests are failure tests
… you can contact me if you have problems

Alex: I tried to use XML Starlet, and failed
… the inference of what the expectation of a test is only got me to 90% understanding
… input+output then you expect success
… for instance, but some tests have neither input or output.

Prague

Steven: Many of us will be in Prague next week, where we can talk.

Steven: The next meeting would have been the 9th, but that is cancelled, so next is 16th.

[Discussion of possible additions to Delft interfaces]

Summary of action items

  1. Steven to add "test Documentation" as an issue when Codeberg is ready
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All speakers: Alex, Giovanni, Huy, John, Steven, Vasco

Active on IRC: Steven