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13:59:39 <Steven> Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
13:59:39 <Steven> Date: 26 May 2026
13:59:39 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:59:39 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
13:59:40 <Steven> Present:
13:59:40 <Steven> Regrets: Norm
13:59:50 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/05/12-ixml-minutes.html
13:59:59 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2026May/0023.html
14:02:14 <Steven> Present: Steven, Nico, David, Alan, John, Giovanni, huy, Vasco, Alec
14:02:34 <Steven> Topic: Welcome to ixml Delft group
14:03:37 <Steven> Steven: They are 5 people on a 10 week project to implement ixml in Rust.
14:03:46 <Steven> ... now about half way.
14:04:12 <Steven> Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
14:04:18 <Steven> [No objections]
14:04:27 <Steven> Topic: Review of open actions
14:04:56 <Steven> Steven: Nothing to report on actions
14:05:05 <Steven> Topic: Status reports
14:05:25 <Steven> John: Workbench has added download capabilities.
14:06:09 <Steven> ... also not yet released but implemented attributes revealing location of the source text.
14:06:42 <Steven> Steven: I've submitted my paper to Prague on state of play and developments in this group
14:06:54 <Steven> ... I will also be doing a tutorial on use cases of ixml
14:07:37 <Steven> Steven: ANd now Delft
14:07:45 <Steven> Giovanni: working on error reporting
14:08:04 <Steven> Huy: Command line interface
14:08:25 <Steven> Vasco: Building the parse forest, and SPPF
14:08:56 <Steven> Alex: Parsing, and integration of test suite
14:09:38 <Steven> Steven: One other person, David, doing parsing
14:09:44 <Steven> s/Alec/Alex/
14:10:01 <Steven> Alex: No insertions currently
14:10:14 <Steven> ... Working on serialisation.
14:10:37 <Steven> ... doing all the current development spec.
14:10:46 <Steven> ... Vasco is working on the not operator
14:10:58 <Steven> ... otherwsie finding small issues
14:11:04 <Steven> s/wsie/
14:11:44 <Steven> Jihn: You're working on the parsing of the grammar. Is this via a bootstrap, or hardcoded?
14:12:21 <Steven> s/Jihn/John/
14:12:34 <Steven> Giovanni: Hardcoded
14:12:45 <Steven> John: I agree that it's the easiest way
14:13:36 <Steven> ... I encourage you to parse grammars for transformation, and also accept XML format trees in the future
14:14:13 <Steven> Alex: I've figures out how the test suite works, but it could be better documented (IMHO)
14:14:30 <Steven> ... some tests don't match the description
14:14:48 <Steven> ... this seems to be about what the test is actually testing
14:15:02 <Steven> ... today I figured out the test catalogue
14:15:23 <Steven> ... I could have benefitted by more description.
14:15:59 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to add "test Documentation" as an issue when Codeberg is ready
14:16:50 <Steven> John: We use a method that we were already familiar with
14:16:56 <Steven> ... many tests are failure tests
14:17:11 <Steven> ... you can contact me if you have problems
14:18:20 <Steven> Alex: I tried to use XML Starlet, and failed
14:18:42 <Steven> ... the inference of what the expectation of a test is only got me to 90% understanding
14:19:03 <Steven> ... input+output then you expect success
14:19:27 <Steven> ... for instance, but some tests have neither input or output.
14:22:01 <Steven> Topci: Prague
14:22:18 <Steven> Steven: Many of us will be in Prague next week, where we can talk.
14:23:25 <Steven> Steven: The next meeting would have been the 9th, but that is cancelled, so next is 16th.
14:25:46 <Steven> [Discussion of possible additions to Delft interfaces]
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