Meeting minutes
<gb> Pull Request 153 Refine terminology section (by acoburn)
<gb> Pull Request 157 Change totalItems from MUST to SHOULD (by ebremer)
<gb> Pull Request 161 feat(notifications): LWS Notifications base specification with Webhooks (by laurensdeb)
<gb> Pull Request 106 Add editors draft for LWS Access Requests and Access Grants (by acoburn)
<gb> Pull Request 115 add Type Index Section (by ebremer)
Introduction and announcements
intros and annoucne ..
laurens: propose to cancel Mon 2th call - any objections?
laurens: cancel next mon mtg
… samu joined at f2f wg
<langsamu> This is Samu
langsamu: work for ODI, prev Inrupt. will be implemting .net ref impl of LWS plus test suite for LWS
Test Suite update
laurens: add agenda item on test suite update
ericP: was q was whether to leave in same repo as rest of specs. if it does, then main repo gets npm updates - so move out into something like lws-contrib
… then put test suite in there
… leave manifest and test files in the main repo, but all javascript etc in the lws-contrib repo
Terminology PR #153 discussion and vote
laurens: agenda PR #153 -- refine terminology
<gb> Pull Request 153 Refine terminology section (by acoburn)
laurens: minor updates last mtg
… any more additions, or move to vote?
<termontwouter> fred go first then
<Zakim> gibsonf, you wanted to ask about minor change
gibsonf1: comment on 'another resource' in PR .. change to 'a' -
laurens: should have been resolved in gh ... will look in to that
termontwouter: reframe definitions in terms of representations rather than resources - i opened a PR
laurens: prefer to merge today and then deal with latests PRs after
… and then move to vote today
termontwouter: ok agree
laurens: will fix gh re: 'a resource'
… propose go to vote
<ericP> PROPOSE: merge PR #153
<gb> Pull Request 153 Refine terminology section (by acoburn)
<gibsonf1> +1
<jeremycaine> +1
<ericP> +1
<eBremer> +1
<laurens> +1
<pchampin> +1
<ryey> +1
<langsamu> +0
<Rbreitman> +0
<termontwouter> +1
<bendm> +1
RESOLUTION: merge PR #153
totalItems PR #157 discussion and vote
<pchampin> w3c/
<termontwouter> s+i opened a PR+i opened PR w3c/
<gb> CLOSED Pull Request 163 Define aux & meta in terms of representations (by termontwouter)
<laurens> PROPOSE: Merge PR #157
<gb> Pull Request 157 Change totalItems from MUST to SHOULD (by ebremer)
<gibsonf1> +1
<eBremer> +1
eBremer: marked all SHOULDS
<jeremycaine> +1
<ericP> +1
<laurens> +1
<Rbreitman> +0
<langsamu> +0
<bendm> +1
<pchampin> +1
<ryey> +0.5 (not exactly sure about the implications to virtual resources, but generally seems fine)
RESOLUTION: Merge PR #157
laurens: discuss virtual resource issue at end of mtg
<ryey> Indeed, that's why my vote is a plus :)
Notifications PR #161 discussion
<laurens> w3c/
<gb> CLOSED Pull Request 129 feat(notifications): Introduce the LWS notifications specification as an optional service (by laurensdeb)
laurens: PR #161 action in f2f mtg
<gb> Pull Request 161 feat(notifications): LWS Notifications base specification with Webhooks (by laurensdeb)
laurens: no vote today, please review
… move to vote on june 1st mtg
… PR #162 intro draft for web socket and SSE ,, but requires discussion with elf-pavlik
<gb> Pull Request 162 feat(notifications): Add WebSocket and Server-Sent Event channels (by laurensdeb)
Access Requests PR #106 discussion and vote
laurens: PR #106 .. discussed numerous times, minor changes last week
<gb> Pull Request 106 Add editors draft for LWS Access Requests and Access Grants (by acoburn)
gibsonf1: trying to preview - got a 404 earlier
laurens: preview links work - caching issue?
… needs gh investigate
… cannot move to merge today
… postpone vote
Type Index PR #115 discussion
laurens: PR #115
<gb> Pull Request 115 add Type Index Section (by ebremer)
eBremer: needs a few more days
laurens: PR #160 pchampin
<gb> Pull Request 160 move former editors to Acknowledgement section (by pchampin) [editorial]
PR #160 - Former editors section
pchampin: this spec is not an evolution of Solid - but inspired by - therefore ack the former editors
… doesn't hurt to leave, but it's ready to merge - could merge in a week time; don't need to wait for next mtg
<gibsonf1> +1
<jeremycaine> +1
<laurens> +1
<eBremer> +1
<termontwouter> +1
<ericP> PROPOSE: ask pchampin to merge 160 in one week barring objection in the github issue
<laurens> +1
<gibsonf1> +1
<ericP> +1
1
<jeremycaine> +1
<eBremer> +1
<pchampin> +1
<termontwouter> +1
RESOLUTION: ask pchampin to merge 160 in one week barring objection in the github issue
PR #154
PR Pull Request 154 Rename container section to 'Containers' (by acoburn) [editorial] - Rename container section to 'Containers'
laurens: propose vote
<laurens> PROPOSE: To merge PR #154
<laurens> +1
<termontwouter> +1
<ryey> +1
<ericP> +1
<jeremycaine> +1
<pchampin> +1
<bendm> +1
<ryey> +1
<gibsonf1> +1
<eBremer> +1
<Rbreitman> +0
RESOLUTION: To merge PR #154
Additional open PRs <https://github.com/w3c/lws-protocol/pulls >
jeremycaine: As discussed at F2F meeting I wrote the introduction section in PR #158
<gb> Pull Request 158 Add introduction section (by jeremycaine)
jeremycaine: That is ready for review.
… Diagrams are in C4 syntax as platform independent models.
… The diagrams are in PR #159.
<gb> Pull Request 159 Add scope diagrams section with C4 Level 1 and Level 2 diagrams (by jeremycaine)
laurens: any other PRs need discuss?
<Zakim> gibsonf, you wanted to ask about viewing it
termontwouter: PR got closed PR #163 .. so cannot retarget to main branch
<gb> CLOSED Pull Request 163 Define aux & meta in terms of representations (by termontwouter)
laurens: re-open pls termontwouter
termontwouter: will check on impact on spec
gibsonf1: we are effectively specifying representations already ..
… so use representation instead of resource
laurens: not convinced we can do that everywhere
… we still need operations on resources
<pchampin> +1 laurens
termontwouter: PR is only targeting metadata and auxiliary
jeremycaine: I raised an issue #155 on the virtual resource topic
<gb> Issue 155 What is the scope of the LWS protocol and this has bearing on whether we need Virtual Resource (by jeremycaine)
jeremycaine: I think if we had some clear example of various POST and GET requests on containers and data resources that might point
… at external programs that might flesh out these attributes of the representations.
… The issue on definitions and virtual resources might follow from getting the scope of the LWS server clear.
termontwouter: point jeremycaine to issue #116
<gb> Issue 116 Abstract 'containers' as Link Set representations of arbitrary relational metadata (by termontwouter)
termontwouter: might be some examples here to help with issue #155
laurens: virtual resource - first do intro and diagrams .. then we get to virtual resource et al
jeremycaine: I didn't quite get the narrative on virtual resources before.
… If we clarify the scope of the server well, then the virtual resource part might make more sense.
laurens: AOB?
ryey: q. was the new terminology section merged?
laurens: PR #153 was merged - now in main branch
<gb> MERGED Pull Request 153 Refine terminology section (by acoburn)
laurens: so can do new terminology PRs now
termontwouter: cannot see jeremycaine diagrams
laurens: will look at svg display
laurens: can close early. please look at open PRs raised by jeremycaine. in two weeks time - review typed index
… and move to vote
… and access grants
… next week cancel, see june 1st