Meeting minutes
Approval of last week’s minutes: 1
<pfps> minutes look acceptable
AndyS: the link to "next week's meeting" is broken because we did not have a meeting last week
ktk: we will fix this
<ora> PROPOSAL: Approve minutes from 2 weeks ago
<ora> +1
<niklasl> +1
<enrico> +1
<ktk> +1
<TallTed> +1
<Souri> +1
<gtw> +1
<AZ> +0 (I was not present)
<AndyS> +1
<olaf> +1
<lisp> +1
<Dominik_T> +1
<tl2> +1
<pfps> +1
RESOLUTION: Approve minutes from 2 weeks ago
Updates from the SPARQL TF
AndyS: we have PRs in progress
… we had a discussion on service description
ora: is it related to the separate SPARQL spec?
AndyS: yes
ora: is it the spec that nobody implements?
ktk: I've seen it on most endpoint, not necessarily of the best quality
pfps: implementations depend on it
… and some implement extensions of it
ktk: it may be a good time to talk about the security meeting
ora: security people wanted to point out threats
… we may want to talk about them but not necessarily propose solutions
ktk: for SPARQL they were thinking of injections and things from SQL
… we said that this is very hard to fix because of open world and other things
… we have to go back to the drawing board and see
TallTed: can we inherit by reference the security review for HTTP
… not sure the security group have figured this out yet
… it wouldn't be fair that we deal with all these problems
ora: we wil talk again to the security group and mention this
pfps: the IETF spec has 4 pages of security considerations
ktk: please post a link to this
<pfps> HTTP spec (maybe not the most recent) is https://
AndyS: I agree we can only highlight problems but not suggest solutions
<pfps> See https://
AndyS: any solutions is more likely to rot than the attacks
… we are less worried of ingestion that SQL
TallTed: it would be good to have the date of the meeting added to the calendar
ktk: we don't have the date yet but yes
Horizontal Reviews Tracking 2 3 4
ktk: it was interesting to talk to people who have no knowledge of RDF
… there is a misunderstanding that some things we define are abstract concepts and that cannot cause attacks or security issues
ktk: we have to work on the security part, the rest is going rather smoothly
pfps: there was an issue relative to privacy on semantics
… or maybe that was accessibility rather than pricacy
… the complaint was about using tables
<pfps> Table issue is in w3c/
<gb> CLOSED Issue 139 rdf12-semantics 2025-11-25 > 2025-12-23 (by ktk) [LC] [REVIEW REQUESTED] [pending] [s:rdf12-semantics]
pfps: afaics, tables don't have a semantic meaning in HTML
niklasl: I could have a go at that
pfps: if this is strictly editorial, we can address it later
niklasl: there may be HTML5 elements that are better suited
<AndyS> w3c/
<gb> Issue 174 check text inside tables (by pfps) [spec:editorial]
Review of open actions, available at 5
Identifying issues to solve before CR 6
AndyS: I raised 3 issues on RDF semantics re. tests
… we need to have a clean set of tests to go to CR
AndyS: if there is a missing file in the MANIFEST the test crashes
<enrico> w3c/
<gb> Pull Request 178 Update RDF dataset merge definition (by franconi) [ms:CR]
enrico: there is a PR that is ready to be closed re. the definition of Dataset merge
… It took all the comments that came in
ora: do we need more reviews?
enrico: there was already a lot of discussions on it
ora: so it's ready to be merged
enrico: will do right now
<TallTed> changes to 2 lines of w3c/
ktk: regardiong issue 248, we have regular people in the group that should be acknowledged
<TallTed> (note that the indents of those lines should also be normalized)
ktk: and some people are technically in the group but never join
… should we acknowledge everyone?
ora: we should scrutinise this a bit
AndyS: Pierre-Antoine can help us on this
Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting
<ktk> https://
<enrico> TallTed -- I will try to add your fix to the merged PR #178
<gb> Issue 178 Create bibliography for students/engineers/scientists (by sulivanShu) [documentation]
<AndyS> w3c/
<gb> MERGED Pull Request 64 Add canonical Turtle for RDF-recognized XSD datatypes (`ns/rdf-xsd.ttl`) (by domel)
<AndyS> https://
AndyS: there is this file [see above] related to this PR
… we can close it
<ktk> w3c/
<gb> Issue 67 Add xsd:numeric to rdf-xsd.ttl (by ektrah) [propose closing]
AndyS: issue 67 needs to be closed (PR 64 is already merged)
TallTed: we have to check with ektrah
ktk: I closed it
ora: we can adjourn