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State of Web Monetization

<koalie> hi hi, someone muted the room

<tomayac> https://webmonetization.org/

<tomayac> https://webmonetization.org/play/

<koalie> https://community.interledger.org/

thanks koalie

<sidvishnoi> Current home: wicg/webmonetization

Slides https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YZo9QV7toxT_R1fOaJPSR9u4Q59O0p3z7UljQjxp6SE/edit?usp=sharing

<koalie> rbyers: how many publishers?

<koalie> alakatos: about a thousand so far

<koalie> ... grant for the web

<koalie> ... smashingmag also

new publishers onboarded through respin of grat for the web

pixelfeed, castapod, a new social,

most of them till now: from the fediverse, but also magazines like smashingmag

<rbyers> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3119

<rbyers> ack +

initial talks at tpac raised concerns about privacy: tracking founding / founders - how is that in the current state

the browser knows from where you pay to where you pay

benoit: the browser also knows what pages you browse

alex: the wallets know your details, they do the KYC, and we can not break that - we re not passing any data on how much content and which type you consume

benoit: flip side - how do u see this as a possible avenue for money laundry, etc

Alex: the same as tiktok / content consumption

WM is only plumbing from moving money from a to b

it is not going through: it is wallet to wallet / bank to bank

<koalie> ioana: people trust more if it's in the browser, than extension

the extension requires more personalization: there will be a slimmer version of it probably forever

tom: the extension requires more personalization: there will be a slimmer version of it probably forever. When an i use it with my regular bank?

alex: good question: we both have EU accounts - banks - try sending me an 1 EUR. Tom: EU bank communicated. Alex: yes, but considering SEPA there are minumum amounts

alex: we need banks to be interoperabile

ledger in our name: aka Interledger Foundation is accounting ledger - not crypto

ILF works with whole country's bank systems: Jordan as an example

<Zakim> duerst, you wanted to ask about overhead (fees); keeping pages open for a long time but not actually reading them

thanks for the help koalie

<koalie> welcome!

were there questions/ reactions before I joined IRC?

<koalie> none

bkardell: question related the traditional way of payment for streaming

Alex

Dees: user literacy come from two sides - do i drink the cool aid from my fav influencer. or i go to smashing mag and get education about this

Benoit: a website would know if u are supporting it with wm

so u can unblock different initiatives that are under paywall

bkardell would love to understand the streaming better

analogy used: drinking water with a tap

bank statement atm include the milion of transation (different implementation)

tomayac mentioning different educational situations: how people feel about it

<koalie> what's a "publisher"?

<koalie> relative to "supporters" / "developers" (in the /tools section of webmonetization.org/tools )

<koalie> [session closes]

<sidvishnoi> publisher: anyone who can publish content to web

<koalie> thanks sidvishnoi