Meeting minutes
<karlcow> Trying to join without success so far
SVGStyleElement - deprecate 'media' attribute
karlcow: media attribute isn't deprecated HTML. So makes no sense to remove it from SVG.
karlcow: should we keep it and close the ticket
Vinay: It should be fine. Lets close the bug
RESOLUTION: Keep media attribute in the spec and close bug as HTML still has the attribute as well
Should getBBox returns values when the shape can't be drawn
<nzimmermann> sorry for being late, we had a power cut :-(
karlcow: If with or height are negative, we should make everything 0 in getBBox
karlcow: ...according to last resolution
dmangal: We should not throw if there are invalid values.
dmangal: I am concerned what we should return: everything 0 or only the width/height dimension turn 0
dmangal: an element with 0 dimension does have a bounding box according to spec
dmangal: according to the paragraph in qiuestion. Should we change the paragraph?
karlcow_: The resolution shouldn't have any affect on the rest of the SVG document IMO
karlcow_: Putting everyhthing to 0 seems to be simplest
nzimmermann: Most obvious would be 0 everything.
nzimmermann: Elements with 0-dimension doesn't have an effect on parent bounding box.
nzimmermann: So there is no value to keep position and make dimension only 0
nzimmermann: seems to be natural to return 0
dmangal: A path can be 1 dimensional. Would that be different?
krit: M 100 100 L 100 100 as example
nzimmermann: valid question
nzimmermann: we should test this scenario
karlcow_: We should create WPT tests first and see what browsers return and decide based on the results.
nzimmermann: there is no way to fill a dot. But of course we can stroke it. SVG2 does have arguments for getBBox. So maybe one can differentiate between getBBox w/o arguments and an argument for getting the stroke boundingbox
nzimmermann: We should test these scenarios. Agree with karlcow_ : we should base our decision on the results on WPT.
karlcow_: Who'll create the tests
dmangal: I will
ACTION: dmangal will create more detailed getBBox tests for WPT and also take the arguments into account.
karlcow_: The paragraph you found almost looks like an algorithm. There are many places in SVG2 where things are said but not written as algorithm
karlcow_: it is strange to me.
dmangal: It seems off from the rest of the paragraph
TPAC breakout session
karlcow_: If there is anything you'd like to discuss at TPAC let me know. The breakout session is at the end of the day.
ACTION: Add breakout session questions and send them to Karl
<karlcow_> https://
<karlcow_> 12 November 2025, 17:30–18:30 Japan Standard Time
<karlcow_> Local: 12 November 2025, 17:30 – 18:30 Japan Standard Time
<nzimmermann> note: width/height=0, was already discussed in the past: https://
<karlcow_> w3c/
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