W3C

– DRAFT –
Maturity Model Task Force

08 October 2025

Attendees

Present
CharlesL, Fazio, janina, jkline, Sheri_BH
Regrets
-
Chair
David Fazio
Scribe
Sheri_BH, CharlesL

Meeting minutes

New Business

Fazio: want to try and get the Call for Consensus out by next week so it is out for TPAC

Fazio: Kevin has converted his email into issues

Fazio: some have already been discussed, others need to be addressed before we can do a call for consensus

fazio: This is a follow up issue from Jason

<Fazio> w3c/maturity-model#226

<gb> Issue 226 Add an explanatory section on dimension goals and metrics (by jasonjgw)

Fazio: discussed ticket, this overlaps with one of Kevin's issue

sheri: this seems like a big change, changing culture to Governance and oversite

Oversight missing · Issue #348 · w3c/maturity-model

Janina: What is missing from Oversign and Culture

w3c/maturity-model#348

<gb> Issue 348 Oversight missing (by iadawn)

w3c/maturity-model#341

<gb> Issue 341 Missing governance/policy (by iadawn)

Janina: could rename it to oversight and governance

Sheri: does Culture fit into Oversite and Governance?

David: no, culture is throughout the other dimensions.

Sheri: oversite requires governance.
… how to create policies etc.

Janina: we should combine Jason and Kevin's issues

Sheri: I can put some things together and have this for next week.

Sheri_BH: volunteered to draft extra content for that dimension

Sheri_BH: the name should just be governance, as governance inherently requires oversight

Jeff: financial commitment.

David: this is the main issue we need to address prior to CFC.

Sheri_BH: Review culture, reviewed section, we can sub in edited version from Jeff.

Jeff: what do we need to do?

janina: Sheri will mock something up.

Jeff: we have 1 bullet item in a global location like what I drafted?

Sheri_BH: Yes, an over all goal section with this new Governance section.
… we can edit it in a google doc then add it to our document.

Jeff: a top section of document, and we leave the dimensions alone.

Sheri_BH: if we abstract it out...

jeff: we leave the line item in each dimension alone, and we create something overall

Sheri_BH: I disagree with abstracting it out, then it isn't part of the scoring process

I do agree with putting it in Governance

Jeff: I think its odd, but will defer to the team.

Sheri_BH: I will throw together a google doc and send out a link by Friday for review/editing

Jeff: We are going to rename Culture to "Governance"

GitHub Issue #226 Add an explanatory section on dimension goals and metrics

GitHub Issue #298 ICT is not widely known - definition doesn't really help

w3c/maturity-model#298

<gb> Issue 298 ICT is not widely known - definition doesn't really help (by clapierre)

https://w3c.github.io/maturity-model/#%20Customizing%20the%20Maturity%20Model

Charles: this new addition is fine.

Sheri_BH: my addition to 1.1.1 solves 298, we have one typo and a line that needs to be added about adding dimensions like equity and sustainability

zakin, next item

w3c/maturity-model#303

<gb> Issue 303 Governance and Strategy Gap (by Helixopp)

Neha: will merge all three (226, 303, 348). The surviving ticket will be 348, and Sheri will draft language and circulate to address

Github Issue #303 Governance and Strategy Gap

Triage Remaining Issues

<Fazio> w3c/maturity-model#328

<gb> Issue 328 Clarify what model can do in abstract (by iadawn)

fazio: read his proposed edits out loud

group: Agrees this is good.

w3c/maturity-model#329

<gb> Issue 329 "Proof points" position in hierarchy (by iadawn)

Fazio: will grab the comment from the closed issue (the one Fazio entered for Kevin) and transfer it into 329 and close it

w3c/maturity-model#330

<gb> Issue 330 Use sentence case (by iadawn)

Neha: will make any editorial change requests

issue can be closed

w3c/maturity-model#331

<gb> Issue 331 "Proof points" language unclear (by iadawn)

this is addressed by the new 1.1.1 language

issue can be closed, once Fazio puts in the hyperlink to the new 1.1.1 language

w3c/maturity-model#332

<gb> Issue 332 Move research and standards review to explainer (by iadawn)

Fazio: This is a non-normative note, we are unaware that notes have explainers

issue can be closed

w3c/maturity-model#333

<gb> Issue 333 Definitions format (by iadawn)

Fazio: to ask Kevin which ones he thinks are problematic.

w3c/maturity-model#334

<gb> Issue 334 Improve the About section (by iadawn)

needs to be merged with 328

and then closed

Neha: to take care of these actions

w3c/maturity-model#335

<gb> Issue 335 Clarify impact on product deliver (by iadawn)

need to ask for more details. I don't want to misinterpret what they mean by this comment

Fazio: to ask for more details

w3c/maturity-model#347

<gb> Issue 347 Gaming the system (by iadawn)

This is a non-normative document.

janina: anything can be gamed, if people are going to be disingenuous, they are going to be disingenuous.

Fazio: The point isn't to get a score, it is to get a bird's eye view on what can be improved

Fazio: to close after including our comments

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Maybe present: Charles, David, group, Jeff, Neha, sheri

All speakers: Charles, David, Fazio, group, Janina, Jeff, Neha, sheri, Sheri_BH

Active on IRC: CharlesL, Fazio, janina, jkline, Sheri_BH