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ARIA Editors

24 September 2025

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Daniel, jamesn, pkra, Rahim, Rahim_, spectranaut_
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present Daniel

IDL and table generation

IDL and table generation

w3c/aria#2484

pkra: more specifically w3c/aria#2484 (comment)

<Rahim_> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2484#discussion_r2201820013

Rahim_: this PR included table changes.
… jamesC commented asking if the table information could be generated from the IDL.
… but I don't know how that would work.
… seems like it could make things more robust.
… but not sure if it's feasible

pkra: sounds really interesting. Would need to work on the aria.js, I think. And that's still a mess.
… we spoke about something json-like to generate tables from to make things more robust
… IDL is good data.

spectranaut_: same. sounds good but non-trivial.

Rahim_: I think the presentation in HTML land is quite nice.
… I will try to talk to Anne about how HTML does it.
… I'll open a new issue and follow up there.

pkra: great.

Rahim_: fyi I have followed up with salesforce people to talk about their polyfill.
… safari TP also has things behind a flag. Hopefully we can land it soon.

board backlog review

pkra: let's start with 1804.

jamesn: I don't remember what this was about.

spectranaut_: let's close this.

pkra: done.
… next is 1807. better changelogs

jamesn: I think this is done.

daniel: is this about the monorepo gh problem?

pkra: that's 2238.

jamesn: yes, that's the respec change

Daniel: I saw there was a comment on that.

jamesn: I don't have time for it right now

Daniel: I'll see if I can find time when we publish next

pkra: let's close and point to 2238
… next is 2514

spectranaut_: right, we should get to that.

Daniel: we might want to find another way to signal this.

jamesn: is there not a standard we can copy from other specs?

Daniel: yes but the only allowed prose is something like "this version is intended to add new features".
… if we chose something like "expected to have new features" this might work.

jamesn: do we have other examples?

Daniel: I can link to some examples./

jamesn: would be good to match.

Daniel: it's basically "will it (not) be updated"

pkra: next up 2436.
… documenting deprecation

spectranaut_: I have it on my todo list. Just not very high up.

pkra: next 2496. process for css features

spectranaut_: should we have this on TPAC?

jamesn: sounds good.
… let's tag it for F2F. But we need something first.

pkra: next is 2475. CI for preventing respec failures

Daniel: this is one of mine.
… right now, I basically only know on merge if there's a problem.
… but there's tooling to check it.
… it's another layer. but I think it might be worth it.

jamesn: does prettier help at all?

Daniel: not really. It's the source markup combined with build markup.

pkra: next up is 1263.
… one of mine. I'm aware.

jamesn: looks mostly done.

pkra: next is 2521. another one of mine.
… scott had started a PR. I promised to wrap it up.
… next is 2552

Daniel: I haven't got to it yet.
… same for the next one

pkra: last one is 1905

jamesn: I had a draft PR. It went too far.
… daniel, you were going to update respec on that?

Daniel: yes. It's trickier, they build from their wikis.

netflify previews

Daniel: just fyi, I've been working on an update. IT should give us diffs.

pkra: nice!

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