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16:59:19 <Zakim> Meeting: ARIA Editors
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17:02:01 <Daniel> present+ Daniel
17:02:38 <pkra> zakim, agenda?
17:02:38 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
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17:03:29 <pkra> present+
17:03:34 <pkra> present Daniel
17:03:45 <pkra> present+ spectranaut_
17:03:50 <pkra> present+ Rahim
17:04:45 <pkra> topic: IDL and table generation
17:04:50 <pkra> scribe+
17:04:51 <pkra> topic: IDL and table generation
17:05:20 <pkra> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2484
17:05:35 <pkra> pkra: more specifically https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2484#issuecomment-3315543072
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17:06:01 <Rahim_> present+
17:06:27 <Rahim_> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2484#discussion_r2201820013
17:06:32 <pkra> present+ jamesn
17:07:20 <pkra> Rahim_: this PR included table changes.
17:07:49 <pkra> ... jamesC commented asking if the table information could be generated from the IDL.
17:07:58 <pkra> ... but I don't know how that would work.
17:08:20 <pkra> ... seems like it could make things more robust.
17:08:25 <pkra> ... but not sure if it's feasible
17:11:18 <pkra> pkra: sounds really interesting. Would need to work on the aria.js, I think. And that's still a mess.
17:11:34 <pkra> ... we spoke about something json-like to generate tables from to make things more robust
17:11:44 <pkra> ... IDL is good data.
17:11:55 <pkra> spectranaut_: same. sounds good but non-trivial.
17:13:04 <pkra> Rahim_: I think the presentation in HTML land is quite nice.
17:15:38 <pkra> ... I will try to talk to Anne about how HTML does it.
17:16:03 <pkra> ... I'll open a new issue and follow up there.
17:16:33 <pkra> pkra: great.
17:16:55 <pkra> Rahim_: fyi I have followed up with salesforce people to talk about their polyfill.
17:17:07 <pkra> ... safari TP also has things behind a flag. Hopefully we can land it soon.
17:29:27 <pkra> topic: board backlog review
17:29:37 <pkra> pkra: let's start with 1804.
17:29:48 <pkra> jamesn: I don't remember what this was about.
17:29:53 <pkra> spectranaut_: let's close this.
17:30:23 <pkra> pkra: done.
17:30:35 <pkra> ... next is 1807. better changelogs
17:31:11 <pkra> jamesn: I think this is done.
17:31:26 <pkra> daniel: is this about the monorepo gh problem?
17:31:33 <pkra> pkra: that's 2238.
17:31:42 <pkra> jamesn: yes, that's the respec change
17:31:59 <pkra> Daniel: I saw there was a comment on that.
17:32:10 <pkra> jamesn: I don't have time for it right now
17:32:22 <pkra> Daniel: I'll see if I can find time when we publish next
17:33:11 <pkra> pkra: let's close and point to 2238
17:33:16 <pkra> ... next is 2514
17:33:26 <pkra> spectranaut_: right, we should get to that.
17:34:07 <pkra> Daniel: we might want to find another way to signal this.
17:34:27 <pkra> jamesn: is there not a standard we can copy from other specs?
17:35:19 <pkra> Daniel: yes but the only allowed prose is something like "this version is intended to add new features".
17:35:33 <pkra> ... if we chose something like "expected to have new features" this might work.
17:35:44 <pkra> jamesn: do we have other examples?
17:35:55 <pkra> Daniel: I can link to some examples./
17:36:03 <pkra> jamesn: would be good to match.
17:36:36 <pkra> Daniel: it's basically "will it (not) be updated"
17:37:01 <pkra> pkra: next up 2436.
17:37:06 <pkra> ... documenting deprecation
17:37:26 <pkra> spectranaut_: I have it on my todo list. Just not very high up.
17:38:03 <pkra> pkra: next 2496. process for css features
17:38:57 <pkra> spectranaut_: should we have this on TPAC?
17:39:24 <pkra> jamesn: sounds good.
17:40:09 <pkra> ... let's tag it for F2F. But we need something first.
17:41:02 <pkra> pkra: next is 2475. CI for preventing respec failures
17:41:37 <pkra> Daniel: this is one of mine.
17:41:47 <pkra> ... right now, I basically only know on merge if there's a problem.
17:41:59 <pkra> ... but there's tooling to check it.
17:42:08 <pkra> ... it's another layer. but I think it might be worth it.
17:42:43 <pkra> jamesn: does prettier help at all?
17:43:01 <pkra> Daniel: not really. It's the source markup combined with build markup.
17:43:20 <pkra> pkra: next up is 1263.
17:43:24 <pkra> ... one of mine. I'm aware.
17:46:17 <pkra> jamesn: looks mostly done.
17:46:34 <pkra> pkra: next is 2521. another one of mine.
17:47:12 <pkra> ... scott had started a PR. I promised to wrap it up.
17:47:27 <pkra> ... next is 2552
17:47:46 <pkra> Daniel: I haven't got to it yet.
17:48:51 <pkra> ... same for the next one
17:48:57 <pkra> pkra: last one is 1905
17:49:21 <pkra> jamesn: I had a draft PR. It went too far.
17:50:05 <pkra> ... daniel, you were going to update respec on that?
17:50:18 <pkra> Daniel: yes. It's trickier, they build from their wikis.
17:50:43 <pkra> topic: netflify previews
17:51:08 <pkra> Daniel: just fyi, I've been working on an update. IT should give us diffs.
17:51:15 <pkra> pkra: nice!
17:51:21 <pkra> zakim, close meeting.
17:51:21 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close meeting', pkra
17:51:29 <pkra> zakim, end meeting.
17:51:29 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Daniel, pkra, spectranaut_, Rahim, Rahim_, jamesn
17:51:31 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
17:51:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-aria-editors-minutes.html Zakim
17:51:39 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, pkra; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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