Meeting minutes
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<Eric_hind> Lisa: Housecleaning session..
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Review of Making Content Usable - separate from WCAG 3 topics
<Eric_hind> Rain: For directly assigned items in first table, believe to be on schedule.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: For the 4 or 5 first patterns ready to share, Julie is almost there. Still working on.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Each pattern will likely need a group review, should we put on the upcoming schedules?
<Eric_hind> Julierawe: Yes, in the upcoming weeks. Rain may also work on the introduction?
<julierawe> We can use time at next Monday's meeting to discuss the first pattern.
<Eric_hind> Rain: The initial draft will be ready as part of my other work.
<Eric_hind> Rain: No need for images yet, once text is done, then commit to images.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Images should be prioritized when we have an approved pattern
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Assigning that work will hopefully be started and finished in October.
<Rain> +1
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Mental health proposal, we need Rashmi to go through the 8.1, 8.2 sections. This can go into the Research meeting on Thursday (11th)
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Working draft 2, Findability, etc. will be after first draft
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Issues can be reviewed with Eric on the 18th? Propose to split the 18th meeting with finishing issue papers and then github issue (Lisa not here on the 25th).
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Will also set up github review on the 11th with Eric (Thursday)
<Eric_hind> julierawe: We can split the 11AM EST Thursday between issues and other scheduled items (that I am putting together)
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Editorial review, internationalization are happening per the table items.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Eric and Lisa can make a standard reply to the existing internationalization issues.
<Eric_hind> Jan: Have done some review work on titles.
<Eric_hind> julierawe: Hope to get first pattern out to all soon - and to get input from internationalization.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Ideally, finishing one pattern and forwarding to Jan would be ideal - end of tomorrow.
<Eric_hind> julierawe: We could cycle the review and feedback loops regularly.
<Eric_hind> julierawe: Note that the first pattern to be reviewed has had the feedback and review done with int'l already.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Text to replace the phrase People with Cognitive and Learning disabilities - we aren't quite there for all contexts but are in a good state for now.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: UUser needs row is done.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Handling testing should be part of wider review
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Switch to research papers
<Eric_hind> Lisa: adding people to Finishing Issue Paper section. Conversation interface, Supported. Eric to review Technology Assited Indoor Wayfinding to see if complete.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Introduction for cover document is done.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Triggers needs to be worked on.
<Lisa> do we delay issue papers for cleaned up citations ?
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Citations work, making them W3C standard is TBD. We will provide the first round in our current standard and work to the standard later.
<Eric_hind> julierawe: Potentially Charli could work on the citations issue when fully back?
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Acknowledgements still needed.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Respec issues TBD
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<Eric_hind> Jan: No new items from i18n - no pressing updates and they are ready to review anything new from COGA
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Review Eric proposal for sheet entry versus doc... some folks needing assistive technology find any spreadsheet more difficult. Is this a good shift or change?
<Lisa> who like the spreadsheet more that the google docs
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Who likes the spreadsheet?
<Lisa> +1 is for speadsheet
<JeanneEC> +1 (but willing to work with an alternative)
<Abi> +1
<Jan> +1 spreadsheet
<LenB> +1
<Rain> +1
<Eric_hind> +1
<julierawe> 0
<Lisa> 0
<Eric_hind> kirkwood: OK, but needs an explainer, logic flows as a recommendation, etc.
<julierawe> Maybe the front tab could be like a table of contents
<Eric_hind> julierawe: Add a "Getting your bearings" tab. We could check with others to see if they have experiences
<Eric_hind> kirkwood: Alternatively, a link to the Nav might be good - needs to be early on in the first sheet.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: The link could be the old explainer?
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<Eric_hind> julierawe: Will ask the group about their comfort level with changes.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: "Helping people engage with COGA document" - work in progress, add to if you think anything is missing.
<Rain> +1 that seems to make sense
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Around being overwhelmed - research and guidance subgroups that meet on Thursdays. The topics per meeting are available.
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Sending requests to the list are usually a good thing/effective thing.
<Eric_hind> julierawe: Email would be best for me.
<Eric_hind> kirkwood: Slack can work if there is complete buy in (FYI), but may not otherwise.
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<Eric_hind> LenB: Agree that the channel approach isn't as likely to work unless there is buy in. Email tends to be overwhelming otherwise.
<Eric_hind> julierawe: Maybe some additional slack channel training would be good? It seems daunting. Len mentions that he might be able to help
<Eric_hind> Lisa: Please think about things that would help folks get into COGA. Different solutions may emerge from experience and trying other things out.