Meeting minutes
Approval of minutes from the last two meetings: 1 , 2
ora: minutes from last two meetings
<ora> PROPOSAL: Approve last two weeks' minutes
<gkellogg> +1
<ora> +0.5
<ktk> +1
<TallTed> +1
<AndyS> +1
<doerthe> +1
<tl> +1
<pfps> +1
RESOLUTION: Approve last two weeks' minutes
<james> +1
Proposal for next week's discussion
<pfps> continuing audio problems with Zoom :-(
ora: email https://
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-star-wg/2025Jul/0027.html
<pfps> There is the continuing discussion that might cause changes to the semantics.
ora: Bulk of the discussion next week about issues before CR.
pfps: We need to discuss issue on semantics
tl: Tried to label `ms:cr`in rdf-star-wg.
<pfps> I just tagged w3c/
<gb> Pull Request 220 Annotations on asserted triples are based on operational semantics (by rat10) [ms:CR]
tl: may not be around next week
<pfps> I also tagged w3c/
<gb> Pull Request 144 No connection between propositions and facts in model-theoretic semantics (by rat10) [ms:CR] [spec:enhancement]
ora: idea is - tag important then discuss next week
… tagged items is only topic
AndyS: about horizontal review ...
ora: after next week, we may be able to start horizontal reviews
gkellogg: did some tagging on concepts and n-triples.
… maybe have some formal notes in the document with links to issues if not resolved in time for horizontal review
… maybe need to mark "needs discussion" even if not "ms:CR".
ora: agree - please mark them.
gkellogg: I have focused on those two documents (Concepts, N-Triples)
ora: one week for WG members to take a look.
Review of open actions, available at 3
ora: my action in progress
<ktk> w3c/
<gb> Action 159 write a non-normative description (in "what's new") about what properties can or should link to triple terms (on rdfguy) due 2025-05-08
<ora> w3c/
<gb> Pull Request 18 what properties can or should link to triple terms? (by rdfguy)
Review of pull requests, available at 4
w3c/
<gb> Pull Request 72 Fix `dfn-literal`. add "period" before full-stop character, other misc. (by gkellogg) [spec:editorial]
Merge w3c/
<gb> Pull Request 213 Explicit requirements for rdf:langString and rdf:dirLangString - alternative (by pchampin)
gkellogg: I will deal with the conflict resolution.
andys: can merge rdf-tests #191
<gb> Issue 191 not found
gkellogg: about rdf-tests - #209 - pchampin comment outstanding.
<gb> Issue 209 not found
<gkellogg> w3c/
<gb> Pull Request 209 Adds directional language-tagged string tests … (by gkellogg) [Semantics]
gkellogg: need someone to look at this
pfps: I think pchampin's comment is correct
gkellogg: OK - I will fix these and merge.
Issue Triage, available at 5
Close broken link issues because fix-in-progress
AndyS: Can we publish the SPARQL NS document? w3c/
<gb> Issue 202 Populate the https://www.w3.org/ns/sparql# namespace document (by afs) [spec:substantive]
<TallTed> for example, DID namespace is at https://
AndyS: will work with pchampin on this
<TallTed> serializations are listed here -- https://
ora: About w3c/
<gb> Issue 30 XML? (by riannella) [Editorial]
<james> they do not look like xml.
ora: is there a way to be less confusing e.g. different brackets?
<pfps> +1 to Andy
<james> perhaps sgml.
ora: maybe prefix-name like syntax?
ktk: This style is used commonly in RDF training
… will respond
<TallTed> the example is visible here -- https://
ora: close the "propose closing"?
ktk: will assess them and see if they can be closed
gkelloggg: w3c/
<gb> Issue 46 Why quoted triples, when we already have named graphs? (by lars-hellstrom) [wr:pending]
<gb> Issue 79 Reconsider bidirectional (bidi) tag? (by termontwouter) [wr:pending]
ktk: important point is named graphs have an orthogonal usage
tl: Decision was made with some consideration of named graphs from datagraph
pfps: WG members are free to comment as individuals
ora: Close with link to WG resolution
<ktk> s/handels/handles/
<ktk> s/jul/Jul/