W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA WG

31 July 2025

Attendees

Present
aardrian, cyns, Daniel, Francis_Storr, giacomo-petri, jcraig, katez, pkra, StefanS
Regrets
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Chair
ValerieYoung
Scribe
pkra

Meeting minutes

New PR Triage

spectranaut_: PR 2587 from Luke.
… updating ARIAMixIn
… Rahim already on it.

cyns: you can add me.

spectranaut_: PR 2583 from giacomo.

giacomo-petri: this is a fix for a previous PR which had forgotten to update the table.

spectranaut_: marking as editorial.

jamesn: I'll review.

pkra: add me.

spectranaut_: next PR 2581 from giacomo
… we discussed this last week
… does this basically have ACT review?

giacomo-petri: the question came from ACT.
… ACT will only have to mark it as deprecated.

spectranaut_: should we add an issue elsewhere?

giacomo-petri: I opened an issue on the ACT.

Daniel: should be more than axe

pkra: can we cross link the ACT issue?

giacomo-petri: should be in the issue...
… I'll take a look.

spectranaut_: that issue references the PR
… so that'll do.

jamesn: it's relatively trivial because it covers fallbacks mostly.

spectranaut_: can we have another reviewer?

jamesn: add me.

WPT Open PRs

jcraig: I'm reviewing the newest one. Not sure if the others need discussion.

spectranaut_: Rahim is not here.

Deep Dive planning

spectranaut_: any new Deep Dives?
… no takers.

Unblocking PRs

jamesn: this query is all PRs that are non-editorial but not waiting for anything.

spectranaut_: no Scott or Rahim so html-aam probably doesn't make sense today.

spectranaut_: can we do this before aria-actions?
… doesn't seem to the the case, so let's move on.
… next: PR 2066 new entry for "focusable"
… from Mario. 2 years old.
… is it in terms?
… and unrelated changes?

pkra: we don't use terms.html anyomre

jamesn: this is on me.
… looks like I didn't delete the terms bit.

spectranaut_: so we should only have the change in aria proper?
… can we fix the markup?

pkra: I'll take a look.

spectranaut_: can we merge it?

jamesn: if jcraig is satisfied.

jcraig: can you assign me?

spectranaut_: done.
… it's small and editorial.
… next: PR 2210, accname, from monorepo move

<spectranaut_> link: w3c/aria#2210

bryan: I'll take a look.

pkra: looks lIke we have approval from bryan and mel.

spectranaut_: oh, it needs WPT tests.
… I spoke to Jane about the tests. I'll follow up.
… next up: PR 2211, aria-notify.

jamesn: we talked about it and it's in waiting

spectranaut_: this doesn't have any reviews.
… I'll add myself.

jamesn: I want to be sure it's ready for review though.
… last conversation was about 2577.

spectranaut_: is 2211 overcome by events?

jamesn: let's not assign anyone until we know.

spectranaut_: I'll ping Keith on the PR.
… next: PR 2417. valuetext with combobox
… from scott.

jamesn: looks like we need issues on gecko and webkit

spectranaut_: I'll add bugs on webkit and gecko.
… next: PR 2371. US labeledby spelling

jamesn: I thought we were dropping this?

jcraig: I thought so, too.

spectranaut_: last comment was to ask Scott if we can close.

jcraig: we should close the related issues, too.

spectranaut_: what about the cautious approach mentioned there?

jcraig: I think we wanted to have WPT tests to call out differences.

spectranaut_: then let's leave the issue open but close the PR.

jcraig: sound good. We can add a note later.

spectranaut_: next: PR 2181
… aria-hidden and focused elemens, from scott.
… Rahim had some proposed changes.
… not sure there's anything but wait for the discussion
… next: PR 2170 posinset/setsize in toolbar from Adrian.

aardrian: I dropped the ball on this. There were reviews/changes and I didn't respond.

spectranaut_: let's have re-reviews. Can we have another reviewer?

cyns: I can take a look

spectranaut_: next PR 2284 core-aam UA reqs for disallow orphaned roles.
… from jcraig.

jcraig: let me fix it so it can be merged.
… I just added the changes you had signed off on.

spectranaut_: merged!
… next: PR 2247 presentational role conflict resolution, from giacomo
… can we get reviews?
… is this editorial?
… there is another MUST.

giacomo-petri: right.

spectranaut_: then I think we need tests for it.

giacomo-petri: I'll look into it

spectranaut_: great. I'll add a note
… next: PR 2200 UIA mappings control-type text. from monorepo move.
… this is waiting on implementations.

giacomo-petri: just quickly on the previous one. I think it needs tests because browsers are inconsistent.
… I'll add tests.
… on WPT

spectranaut_: thank you!
… next: PR 2533 role scrollbar AXAPI
… waiting on changes.
… looks good.
… any other topic?

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All speakers: aardrian, bryan, cyns, Daniel, giacomo-petri, jamesn, jcraig, pkra, spectranaut_

Active on IRC: aardrian, cyns, Daniel, Francis_Storr, giacomo-petri, jamesn, jcraig, katez, pkra, spectranaut_, StefanS