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15:56:14 <Zakim> Meeting: ARIA WG
15:56:17 <spectranaut_> chair: ValerieYoung
15:56:25 <spectranaut_> agendabot, find agenda
15:56:25 <agendabot> spectranaut_, OK. This may take a minute...
15:56:26 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/5a155237-d896-464b-9c5f-6dd1654293ae/20250731T130000/
15:56:26 <agendabot> clear agenda
15:56:26 <agendabot> agenda+ -> New PR Triage https://github.com/search?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+created:%3E=2025-07-24+repo:w3c/aria&type=Issues
15:56:26 <agendabot> agenda+ -> WPT Open PRs https://bit.ly/wpt_a11y
15:56:29 <agendabot> agenda+ -> Deep Dive planning https://bit.ly/aria-meaty-topic-candidates
15:56:31 <agendabot> agenda+ -> Unblocking PRs https://wai-aria.short.gy/7Zp6Ue
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17:00:18 <pkra> present+
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17:00:51 <jamesn> agenda?
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17:01:36 <giacomo-petri> present+
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17:04:43 <pkra> scribe+
17:04:54 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:04:54 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- -> New PR Triage https://github.com/search?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+created:%3E=2025-07-24+repo:w3c/aria&type=Issues -- taken up [from agendabot]
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17:05:10 <katez> present+
17:05:31 <aardrian> present+
17:05:35 <cyns> present+
17:05:36 <pkra> spectranaut_: PR 2587 from Luke.
17:05:49 <pkra> ... updating ARIAMixIn
17:05:59 <pkra> ... Rahim already on it.
17:06:05 <pkra> cyns: you can add me.
17:06:27 <pkra> spectranaut_: PR 2583 from giacomo.
17:06:47 <StefanS> present+
17:06:54 <pkra> giacomo-petri: this is a fix for a previous PR which had forgotten to update the table.
17:07:01 <pkra> spectranaut_: marking as editorial.
17:07:01 <Daniel> present+
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17:07:12 <pkra> jamesn: I'll review.
17:07:20 <Francis_Storr> present+
17:07:24 <pkra> pkra: add me.
17:08:06 <pkra> spectranaut_: next PR 2581 from giacomo
17:08:12 <pkra> ... we discussed this last week
17:08:16 <jcraig> present+
17:08:25 <pkra> ... does this basically have ACT review?
17:08:34 <pkra> giacomo-petri: the question came from ACT.
17:09:07 <pkra> ... ACT will only have to mark it as deprecated.
17:09:15 <pkra> spectranaut_: should we add an issue elsewhere?
17:09:28 <pkra> giacomo-petri: I opened an issue on the ACT.
17:10:07 <pkra> Daniel: should be more than axe
17:10:32 <pkra> pkra: can we cross link the ACT issue?
17:10:36 <pkra> giacomo-petri: should be in the issue...
17:10:39 <pkra> ... I'll take a look.
17:10:49 <jamesn> q+
17:11:06 <pkra> spectranaut_: that issue references the PR
17:11:16 <pkra> ... so that'll do.
17:11:52 <pkra> jamesn: it's relatively trivial because it covers fallbacks mostly.
17:11:58 <jamesn> ack me
17:12:00 <pkra> spectranaut_: can we have another reviewer?
17:12:05 <pkra> jamesn: add me.
17:12:49 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:12:49 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- -> WPT Open PRs https://bit.ly/wpt_a11y -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:13:27 <pkra> jcraig: I'm reviewing the newest one. Not sure if the others need discussion.
17:13:34 <pkra> spectranaut_: Rahim is not here.
17:13:39 <pkra> zakim, close this item
17:13:39 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
17:13:40 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:13:40 <Zakim> 3. -> Deep Dive planning https://bit.ly/aria-meaty-topic-candidates [from agendabot]
17:13:46 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:13:46 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- -> Deep Dive planning https://bit.ly/aria-meaty-topic-candidates -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:13:53 <pkra> spectranaut_: any new Deep Dives?
17:14:13 <pkra> ... no takers.
17:14:16 <pkra> zakim, close this item
17:14:16 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
17:14:17 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
17:14:17 <Zakim> 4. -> Unblocking PRs https://wai-aria.short.gy/7Zp6Ue [from agendabot]
17:14:20 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:14:20 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- -> Unblocking PRs https://wai-aria.short.gy/7Zp6Ue -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:15:07 <pkra> jamesn: this query is all PRs that are non-editorial but not waiting for anything.
17:15:47 <pkra> spectranaut_: no Scott or Rahim  so html-aam probably doesn't make sense today.
17:16:02 <pkra> spectranaut_: can we do this before aria-actions?
17:16:57 <pkra> ... doesn't seem to the the case, so let's move on.
17:17:38 <pkra> ... next: PR 2066 new entry for  "focusable"
17:17:43 <pkra> ... from Mario. 2 years old.
17:18:17 <pkra> ... is it in terms?
17:18:28 <pkra> ... and unrelated changes?
17:18:37 <pkra> pkra: we don't use terms.html anyomre
17:18:41 <pkra> jamesn: this is on me.
17:19:02 <pkra> ... looks like I didn't delete the terms bit.
17:19:46 <pkra> spectranaut_: so we should only have the change in aria proper?
17:20:12 <pkra> ... can we fix the markup?
17:20:15 <pkra> pkra: I'll take a look.
17:20:23 <pkra> spectranaut_: can we merge it?
17:20:33 <pkra> jamesn: if jcraig is satisfied.
17:20:41 <pkra> jcraig: can you assign me?
17:20:45 <pkra> spectranaut_: done.
17:20:50 <pkra> ... it's small and editorial.
17:23:14 <pkra> ... next: PR 2210, accname, from monorepo move
17:23:33 <spectranaut_> link: https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2210
17:24:07 <pkra> bryan: I'll take a look.
17:24:16 <pkra> pkra: looks lIke we have approval from bryan and mel.
17:24:25 <pkra> spectranaut_: oh, it needs WPT tests.
17:25:00 <pkra> ... I spoke to Jane about the tests. I'll follow up.
17:25:12 <pkra> ... next up: PR 2211, aria-notify.
17:25:39 <pkra> jamesn: we talked about it and it's in waiting
17:25:47 <pkra> spectranaut_: this doesn't have any reviews.
17:26:09 <pkra> ... I'll add myself.
17:26:19 <pkra> jamesn: I want to be sure it's ready for review though.
17:26:57 <pkra> ... last conversation was about 2577.
17:27:09 <pkra> spectranaut_: is 2211 overcome by events?
17:27:21 <pkra> jamesn: let's not assign anyone until we know.
17:27:40 <pkra> spectranaut_: I'll ping Keith on the PR.
17:28:12 <pkra> ... next: PR 2417. valuetext with combobox
17:28:16 <pkra> ... from scott.
17:28:41 <pkra> jamesn: looks like we need issues on gecko and webkit
17:28:59 <pkra> spectranaut_: I'll add bugs on webkit and gecko.
17:29:48 <pkra> ... next: PR 2371. US labeledby spelling
17:29:56 <pkra> jamesn: I thought we were dropping this?
17:30:01 <pkra> jcraig: I thought so, too.
17:30:07 <pkra> spectranaut_: last comment was to ask Scott if we can close.
17:30:20 <pkra> jcraig: we should close the related issues, too.
17:31:13 <pkra> spectranaut_: what about the cautious approach mentioned there?
17:31:29 <pkra> jcraig: I think we wanted to have WPT tests to call out differences.
17:31:36 <pkra> spectranaut_: then let's leave the issue open but close the PR.
17:32:04 <pkra> jcraig: sound good. We can add a note later.
17:32:36 <pkra> spectranaut_: next: PR 2181
17:32:47 <pkra> ... aria-hidden and focused elemens, from scott.
17:33:23 <pkra> ... Rahim had some proposed changes.
17:33:40 <pkra> ... not sure there's anything but wait for the discussion
17:33:57 <pkra> ... next: PR 2170 posinset/setsize in toolbar from Adrian.
17:34:23 <pkra> aardrian: I dropped the ball on this. There were reviews/changes and I didn't respond.
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17:35:54 <pkra> spectranaut_: let's have re-reviews. Can we have another reviewer?
17:36:06 <pkra> cyns: I can take a look
17:36:58 <pkra> spectranaut_: next PR 2284 core-aam UA reqs for disallow orphaned roles.
17:37:01 <pkra> ... from jcraig.
17:37:08 <pkra> jcraig: let me fix it so it can be merged.
17:37:49 <pkra> ... I just added the changes you had signed off on.
17:37:57 <pkra> spectranaut_: merged!
17:38:37 <pkra> ... next: PR 2247 presentational role conflict resolution, from giacomo
17:39:25 <pkra> ... can we get reviews?
17:39:46 <pkra> ... is this editorial?
17:40:14 <pkra> ... there is another MUST.
17:40:31 <pkra> giacomo-petri: right.
17:40:41 <pkra> spectranaut_: then I think we need tests for it.
17:41:03 <pkra> giacomo-petri: I'll look into it
17:41:09 <pkra> spectranaut_: great. I'll add a note
17:41:45 <pkra> ... next: PR 2200 UIA mappings control-type text. from monorepo move.
17:42:09 <pkra> ... this is waiting on implementations.
17:42:37 <pkra> giacomo-petri: just quickly on the previous one. I think it needs tests because browsers are inconsistent.
17:42:45 <pkra> ... I'll add tests.
17:43:05 <pkra> ... on WPT
17:43:10 <pkra> spectranaut_: thank you!
17:43:29 <pkra> ... next: PR 2533 role scrollbar AXAPI
17:43:32 <pkra> ... waiting on changes.
17:43:41 <pkra> ... looks good.
17:43:44 <pkra> ... any other topic?
17:44:19 <pkra> zakim, end meeting
17:44:19 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been pkra, giacomo-petri, katez, aardrian, cyns, StefanS, Daniel, Francis_Storr, jcraig
17:44:21 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
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17:44:30 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, pkra; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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