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ARIA Editors

23 July 2025

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Daniel, pkra
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Meeting minutes

ARIA #1896 and #1897: Reffy and custom ReSpec tooling // Illustrate how attributes and properties could be distinct concepts

w3c/aria#1897

w3c/aria#1896

pkra: this is an old one from Anne
… I think this comes down to switching "completely" to respec.
… but I'm not sure if that's the case and if so what that would take.

jamesn: looking at them, we don't do that. It would take some work to make things work with respec.

pkra: does this mean we have to replace pdef/sdef/rdef ?

jamesn: no but we have to add something when converting those.

pkra: ok. so what would that be?

jamesn: ok, the PR is different, it's just an example for when reffy would help.

pkra: ah ok.

jamesn: looking through this, it looks like there's custom code for CSS. It seems tidoust is the main contributor nowadays. We could use the dfn path but that seems the wrong way. We need some context.
… we have some exports

pkra: right. those show up.

jamesn: I don't think roles make sense without additiona info - they're too generic.

pkra: right, we already export things like "hidden" or "perceivable"

jamesn: we should probably file an issue on w3c/reffy

pkra: could you?

jamesn: yes, I'll find time.

pkra: great. should we close 1896?

jamesn: I think Anne might still want this.

pkra: but do we?

jamesn: I'd defer to Val.

pkra: ok I'll assign her

ARIA #1942: Explore concept/styling for direct advice for how AT/screen readers should interpret certain aria roles/values

pkra: it's been a long month :D

jamesn: I probably won't get to it anytime soon.
w3c/aria#1942
… we really just need something that implementors can take notice of - nothing normative.

daniel: so it's more a visual improvement?

jamesn: yes.

Move the meeting back an hour based on Survey results ?

pkra: we will move the meetings back 1h

daniel: I'll update the calendars, but silently.

pkra: note that the next meeting is in 3 weeks.

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