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ARIA Editors

09 July 2025

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Daniel, jamesn, pkra, spectranaut_
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pkra

Meeting minutes

the recent prettier mess, w3c/aria#2568

daniel: I've tried to get to the bottom of this. It seems there's a difference between the new prettier setup and the old.
… running it on main shows a lot of difference. I'll dive deeper.

spectranaut_: so that's why all PRs are getting messed up?

Daniel: yes.
… I didn't understand the issue on scott's PR.
… the prettier seems ok.

spectranaut_: it's more that it now has 100 commits.
… I had something similar on a private repository
… closing and making a fresh PR helped there.

pkra: so it might be a github issue.

spectranaut_: right.
… so should we try a fresh PR for scott's?

Daniel: I tried to fix it.

pkra: it looked better.

spectranaut_: I'll take a look

Daniel: it's w3c/aria#2373

spectranaut_: looks good at first sigh

Daniel: I merged main into it. didn't work for giacomo's.

pkra: did my comment on that other PR make sense?
… that the commit is separate from other changes, so PRs which didn't touch the area affected would not be affected.

spectranaut_: makes sense. But that leaves the first problem, right?

pkra: right.

spectranaut_: where does change come from?

pkra: I think 2 sources: running on main and new, custom action with pinned prettier version.

spectranaut_: ok, so we can remove running prettier on PRs, just have it on main.

daniel: I've made https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2571.

pkra: but not add the local changes?

daniel: yes. Let's see how it runs afterwards.

spectranaut_: then we can remove the prettier commits from PRs.

pkra: should I merge?
… [all] yes!
… prettier run is clean.

daniel: makes sense.

pkra: I've updated w3c/aria#2562
… does this look good?

jamesn: +1

spectranaut_: +1

pkra: looks like prettier does not have commits.
… which seems correct.

Daniel: I'll look at giacomo's.

spectranaut_: what were the steps you did?

pkra: I rebased on main and then removed the prettier commit.
… by git reset but revert should work as well in more complex settings.

continuing aria.js w3c/aria#2501

pkra: I actually wante to talk about pkra/aria#2
… it was a mess to get going.
… the script uses a light dom. It's hacky because of current aria.js . If we move to just having this path, then we could make it sane (import and run a function)
… the action works now. Could probably learn from the prettier action regarding commits.
… the diff is difficult because of different serializations.

jamesn: maybe do it by hand first?

pkra: ok.
… so I'll move this forward?

spectranaut_: +1

jamesn: +1

gaps in Taxonomy of WAI-ARIA States and Properties w3c/aria#1823

pkra: coming back to this, I found myself disagreeing with James. But also the taxonomy seems weird and outdated

jamesn: don't mind if you want to do something but it seems not important.
… but we should probably remove drag-and-drop

spectranaut_: I had never noticed this section either.

pkra: so maybe remove it.

replace practicesURLs with respec APG references w3c/aria#2552

pkra: just wanted to check if that'd be ok for the other editors.

Daniel: since APG is not respec'ed we'd have to use hardcoded links.

pkra: right. But it's just 15 so it feels like the right thing.

jamesn: makes sense.

daniel: sounds good.

align conformance sections across specs, w3c/aria#2554

pkra: daniel did you want to take this?

Daniel: yes. Just not sure when I'll get to it.

zakime, close this item

different time for meeting

different time for meeting

jamesn: I could do something else on Wednesday.

daniel: I'm flexible on wednesday

pkra: me too.

jamesn: maybe do a survey

pkra: which survey system should we use?

daniel: w3c wbs is good.
… but we're not a task force anymore.
… then maybe just google forms.
… ah, correction. We could use wbs.

pkra: can I do this?

daniel: yes.

<Daniel> WBS

status of biblio.js & html-aam/biblio.js w3c/aria#2547

zkaim, end meeting

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