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16:01:29 <Zakim> Meeting: ARIA Editors
16:01:30 <Daniel> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/733a21b1-bdfa-4f93-9e86-14eb807941c2/20250709T120000/
16:01:30 <agendabot> clear agenda
16:01:30 <agendabot> agenda+ the recent prettier mess, https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2568
16:01:30 <agendabot> agenda+ continuing aria.js https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2501
16:01:30 <agendabot> agenda+ gaps in Taxonomy of WAI-ARIA States and Properties https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1823
16:01:31 <agendabot> agenda+ replace practicesURLs with respec APG references https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2552
16:01:34 <agendabot> agenda+ align conformance sections across specs, https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2554
16:01:37 <agendabot> agenda+ status of biblio.js & html-aam/biblio.js https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2547
16:01:40 <agendabot> agenda+ stale issues:
16:01:44 <Daniel> present+ pkra
16:05:44 <pkra> scribe+
16:05:47 <pkra> zakim, next item
16:05:47 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- the recent prettier mess, https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2568 -- taken up [from agendabot]
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16:06:04 <spectranaut_> agenda?
16:06:09 <pkra> daniel: I've tried to get to the bottom of this. It seems there's a difference between the new prettier setup and the old.
16:06:35 <pkra> ... running it on main shows a lot of difference. I'll dive deeper.
16:07:13 <pkra> spectranaut_: so that's why all PRs are getting messed up?
16:07:15 <pkra> Daniel: yes.
16:07:34 <pkra> ... I didn't understand the issue on scott's PR.
16:07:39 <pkra> ... the prettier seems ok.
16:08:07 <pkra> spectranaut_: it's more that it now has 100 commits.
16:08:36 <pkra> ... I had something similar on a private repository
16:08:56 <pkra> ... closing and making a fresh PR helped there.
16:09:11 <pkra> pkra: so it might be a github issue.
16:09:17 <pkra> spectranaut_: right.
16:09:44 <pkra> ... so should we try a fresh PR for scott's?
16:09:51 <pkra> Daniel: I tried to fix it.
16:09:55 <pkra> pkra: it looked better.
16:10:01 <pkra> spectranaut_: I'll take a look
16:10:32 <pkra> Daniel: it's https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2373
16:10:59 <pkra> spectranaut_: looks good at first sigh
16:11:43 <pkra> Daniel: I merged main into it. didn't work for giacomo's.
16:15:07 <pkra> pkra: did my comment on that other PR make sense?
16:17:35 <pkra> ... that the commit is separate from other changes, so PRs which didn't touch the area affected would not be affected.
16:18:46 <pkra> spectranaut_: makes sense. But that leaves the first problem, right?
16:18:48 <pkra> pkra: right.
16:19:26 <pkra> spectranaut_: where does change come from?
16:19:40 <pkra> pkra: I think 2 sources: running on main and new, custom action with pinned prettier version.
16:21:54 <pkra> spectranaut_: ok, so we can remove running prettier on PRs, just have it on main.
16:22:01 <pkra> daniel: I've made https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2571.
16:22:44 <pkra> pkra: but not add the local changes?
16:22:52 <pkra> daniel: yes. Let's see how it runs afterwards.
16:23:01 <pkra> spectranaut_: then we can remove the prettier commits from PRs.
16:25:07 <pkra> pkra: should I merge?
16:25:15 <pkra> ... [all] yes!
16:25:21 <pkra> ... prettier run is clean.
16:27:41 <pkra> daniel: makes sense.
16:28:03 <pkra> pkra: I've updated https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2562
16:28:07 <pkra> ... does this look good?
16:30:59 <pkra> jamesn: +1
16:31:02 <pkra> spectranaut_: +1
16:31:14 <pkra> pkra: looks like prettier does not have commits.
16:31:23 <pkra> ... which seems correct.
16:31:35 <pkra> Daniel: I'll look at giacomo's.
16:31:47 <pkra> spectranaut_: what were the steps you did?
16:32:16 <pkra> pkra: I rebased on main and then removed the prettier commit.
16:32:37 <pkra> ... by git reset but revert should work as well in more complex settings.
16:32:38 <pkra> zakim, next item
16:32:38 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- continuing aria.js https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2501 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:33:19 <pkra> pkra: I actually wante to talk about https://github.com/pkra/aria/pull/2
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16:33:51 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
16:33:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/09-aria-editors-minutes.html jamesn
16:40:28 <pkra> ... it was a mess to get going.
16:40:59 <pkra> ... the script uses a light dom. It's hacky because of current aria.js . If we move to just having this path, then we could make it sane (import and run a function)
16:41:16 <pkra> ... the action works now. Could probably learn from the prettier action regarding commits.
16:41:29 <pkra> ... the diff is difficult because of different serializations.
16:42:15 <pkra> jamesn: maybe do it by hand first?
16:42:18 <pkra> pkra: ok.
16:42:24 <pkra> ... so I'll move this forward?
16:42:27 <pkra> spectranaut_: +1
16:42:29 <pkra> jamesn: +1
16:42:32 <pkra> zakim, next item
16:42:32 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- gaps in Taxonomy of WAI-ARIA States and Properties https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1823 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:46:25 <pkra> pkra: coming back to this, I found myself disagreeing with James. But also the taxonomy seems weird and outdated
16:46:59 <pkra> jamesn: don't mind if you want to do something but it seems not important.
16:47:13 <pkra> ... but we should probably remove drag-and-drop
16:48:45 <pkra> spectranaut_: I had never noticed this section either.
16:48:50 <pkra> pkra: so maybe remove it.
16:48:52 <pkra> zakim, next item
16:48:52 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- replace practicesURLs with respec APG references https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2552 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:49:24 <pkra> pkra: just wanted to check if that'd be ok for the other editors.
16:50:16 <pkra> Daniel: since APG is not respec'ed we'd have to use hardcoded links.
16:50:23 <pkra> pkra: right. But it's just 15 so it feels like the right thing.
16:50:32 <pkra> jamesn: makes sense.
16:50:37 <pkra> daniel: sounds good.
16:50:55 <pkra> zakim, next item
16:50:55 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- align conformance sections across specs, https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2554 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:51:32 <pkra> pkra: daniel did you want to take this?
16:51:49 <pkra> Daniel: yes. Just not sure when I'll get to it.
16:52:31 <pkra> zakime, close this item
16:52:40 <pkra> topic: different time for meeting
16:52:47 <pkra> zakim, close this item
16:52:47 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
16:52:48 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:52:48 <Zakim> 6. status of biblio.js & html-aam/biblio.js https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2547 [from agendabot]
16:52:48 <pkra> topic: different time for meeting
16:53:01 <pkra> jamesn: I could do something else on Wednesday.
16:53:23 <pkra> daniel: I'm flexible on wednesday
16:53:25 <pkra> pkra: me too.
16:53:32 <pkra> jamesn: maybe do a survey
16:54:32 <pkra> pkra: which survey system should we use?
16:54:38 <pkra> daniel: w3c wbs is good.
16:55:16 <pkra> ... but we're not a task force anymore.
16:55:28 <pkra> ... then maybe just google forms.
16:56:05 <pkra> ... ah, correction. We could use wbs.
16:56:17 <pkra> pkra: can I do this?
16:56:36 <pkra> daniel: yes.
16:56:50 <Daniel> -> https://www.w3.org/wbs/ WBS
16:57:11 <pkra> zakim, next item
16:57:11 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- status of biblio.js & html-aam/biblio.js https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2547 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:57:39 <pkra> present: pkra, Daniel, jamesn, spectranaut_
16:57:41 <pkra> zkaim, end meeting
16:57:47 <pkra> zakim, end meeting
16:57:47 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been pkra, Daniel, jamesn, spectranaut_
16:57:49 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
16:57:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/09-aria-editors-minutes.html Zakim
16:57:56 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, pkra; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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