W3C

– DRAFT –
APA Weekly Teleconference

09 Jul 2025

Attendees

Present
Fazio, janina, matatk, Neha, PaulG
Regrets
Chiara_Cerretti, Fredrik_Fischer, Gautier_Chomel, Gottfried_Zimmerman, Jennifer_Strickland, Keith_Newton
Chair
Matatk
Scribe
Neha, janina

Meeting minutes

<matatk> present

Agenda Review & Announcements

<matatk> Baseline info: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Baseline/Compatibility

<Fazio> TPAC meeting?

WebDX community group working on the gap between Baseline information accessibility issues. Lola, from this group asked APA group to analyse this gap by scheduling a meeting. We will setup a meeting and will communicate with all.

matatk: there will probably be a break out session

<Fazio> We should have a more significant TPAC meeting about Baseline

janina: We need AC representative should vote as a member organization

TPAC 2025

We have quite a few sessions in TPAC

matatk: I will contact Lola for Baseline and a11y during TPAC

Horizontal Review process update

<matatk> Reminder of the new documentation on proposing spec review comments: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Horizontal_Review#For_Specifications_2

matatk: This needs to be divided into sections and update wiki page.

matatk: Next time whoever is doing this review follow this process and give us a feedback

New on TR

CSS Positioned Layout Module Level 4

<Roy_Ruoxi> - tracker: https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/155/views/1?pane=issue&itemId=119163005&issue=w3c%7Ca11y-longituidinal-tracking%7C27

<Roy_Ruoxi> - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/css-position-4/

Roy_Ruoxi: New FPWD publication

Roy_Ruoxi: we have time to review this document and who wants to review this document?

matatk: It is update to standard positioning in CSS

matatk: Paul, is there any change in this document? Are yopu aware of this by any chance?

<Roy_Ruoxi> here is review history for level 3: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Positioned_Layout_Module_Level_3

PaulG: If there is a scrollable area and there no element inside it which does not get focus then scroll bar will get focus, and this is a part of chrome update. But not sure if this is the part of new update or not.

PaulG: There were also hicups in implementing pop overs but if this is the part of new update or not, not sure

matatk: anyone have anything to add to this scroll bar focus thing, although focus word does not appear in the this document

matatk: if someone wants to review web neural network then please follow above mentioned process in the link

matatk: we dont have naything new on spec review

Comment review requests

[css-fonts-5] Feature for making text always fit the width of its parent

<matatk> source: w3c/csswg-drafts#2528

<matatk> tracking: w3c/a11y-review#240

PaulG: I did not add any comment but couple of people have already mentioned that it is terrible

PaulG: zoom example is explained how bad it is

matatk: may be we should open separate issue to tackle a11y side of this?

<matatk> Patrick pointed out Resize Text here with a demo: w3c/csswg-drafts#2528 (comment)

janina: To us it appears it voilate WCAG SC

violate*

PaulG: we can say +1 to Patrick and add some comments

Fazio: Do we have to mention it strongly? or just mention?

matatk: We are not sure we should comment at this stage or not

matatk: There is not request fom there side to review it, PaulG noticed this

matatk: We should comment from APA side in polite words, janina and I can work on wording

janina: Is this a normative document?

matatk: Yes

matatk: I like the point of David about barriers

PaulG: Shall we say this does not respond to Zoom

<matatk> Comment on zoom: w3c/csswg-drafts#2528 (comment)

PaulG: zoom in and zoom out functionality and make sure it does not violate WCAG SC

Fazio: If we do not use proper wording like must, it creates a lot of concerns

<Fazio> instead of accessible experience say to meet accessibility requirements

Connect HTML spec up to new CSS `interactivity` property

<matatk> source: whatwg/html#10956

<matatk> tracking: w3c/a11y-review#231

<matatk> See Sarah Higley's comment: whatwg/html#10956 (comment)

<matatk> This was the latest on how it's being shipped in Chrome: w3ctag/design-reviews#1037 (comment)

matatk: This is on tag design review

matatk: Is this aligned with WG pull request?

PaulG: I dont see a PR

PaulG: I think there is some work on CSS interactivity

matatk: They are trying to hormanize HTML and CSS approach

PaulG: I can dig into it and try to understand more

matatk: Jen can also help on this

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All speakers: Fazio, janina, matatk, PaulG, Roy_Ruoxi

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