W3C

– DRAFT –
Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

23 June 2025

Attendees

Present
Charli, gareth, Jennie_Delisi, julierawe, tiffanyburtin
Regrets
Eric, Jan
Chair
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Scribe
gareth

Meeting minutes

<Lisa> Regrets, Jan , Eric

Charu joins us

<Lisa> next item

<Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBEEM_5hTGiuR15pqdcjv22ZRpMszT_at7W0-3QQLlc/edit?tab=t.0

Scheduled a follow up conversion for july 14th to review documents

Addressing issues for new memebers around overwhelm.

*members

<tiffanyburtin> Also I don't see the Helping people doc link

<Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14LeA2LCa6sEotMtBhAOM_jMgyaSgjsEw8dYUzctECiw/edit?tab=t.0

Please add comments to: Helping people engage with coga before July 17th

14th... sorry

<Lisa> next item

<Charli> Gareth - I think that would be helpful to see a diagram of the subgroups,too.

Gareth suggests a diagram or picture of the subgroups

<Lisa> next item

<Charli> Please ask Lisa to CTRL+ to magnify the content she's sharing.

talking about Citations which can be inconsistent.

<Lisa> https://w3c.github.io/manual-of-style/#ref-section

We should consider citations inline with W3C style guide.

<Charli> I hate to be a pill ... if Lisa could CTRL+ when she goes to a new page, that would be extremely helpful.

<Charli> My mic is not working

<Charli> Thanks, Gareth!

<Lisa> try and do citations to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.q3vk0hw1i5v6

<Charli> I'm sorry, I've lost track of what you're asking me to do.

<Lisa> paper to do is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VxJ0X8dC6dtL3Fm26_8XsuscGaSRR2Hr2YFgMaQeD0k/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.6gazbymiqkop

<Lisa> online safety

<Charli> So, to confirm, you want me to take the citations in the Safety doc, and make them follow the style guide?

<Lisa> make the citations conform to https://w3c.github.io/manual-of-style/#ref-section

<Charli> Who would I check with, please?

<Lisa> (some are as row numbers in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eKNrofGubnpQE6mO-vxmI-1MW5nA2LDj0LxebREPRGA/edit?resourcekey=&gid=1686096268#gid=1686096268

<Lisa> and some are links

<julierawe> Suggest Charli check with Lisa and Becca since both activel edited the safety paper.

<Lisa> APA are making a script but I dont think we need it

<Charli> I won't be able to work on it until after July 14

<Charli> How would I contact Becca?

<julierawe> Please disregard my suggestion, sorry for the confusion.

<Lisa> next item

<Charli> So, to confirm, I should NOT work on the citations on that paper?

<Charli> Okay, thanks.

<julierawe> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322

Scheduling approach for WCAG 3 ^^^

Concerns about overall timeline for delivery

<julierawe> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vwD1uJOB1mpduOJ3wdCnEovW5tRZolIVgIJC0FGXwOQ/edit?slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4#slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4

<Jennie_Delisi> Normative?

<Lisa> and the issue with option 3

<Zakim> Lisa, you wanted to ask how to comment and say why it is important

Lisa: is there a place to comment ?

<julierawe> Github thread where people can coment: tps://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322

<julierawe> Option 1 link in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13344879

<julierawe> Option 2 link in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13344917

<julierawe> Option 3 link in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13461851

Concerns about leaving out Cognitive needs

<julierawe> Hybrid approach link (from Makoto) in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13500195

<julierawe> Link to Lisa's comment about bias in WCAG 2: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13496203

<julierawe> Resharing the link to the deck that has a comparison chart of the three options: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vwD1uJOB1mpduOJ3wdCnEovW5tRZolIVgIJC0FGXwOQ/edit?slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4#slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4

Tiffany clarifies the incremental approach.

<julierawe> Link to Julie question asking if the incremental approach (option 3) can guarantee that cognitive and low vision will be prioritized in Phase 1: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13552944

<julierawe> Suggest that COGA members add the eyes emoji to show that they are watching this question.

<Jennie_Delisi> * Apologies - have to drop

https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13552944

<Lisa> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13552976

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