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14:09:38 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:10:07 <Lisa> Regrets, Jan , Eric
14:10:13 <Lisa> Regrets+ Jan , Eric
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14:49:11 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
14:49:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/23-coga-minutes.html Lisa
14:55:32 <Lisa> agenda?
14:57:27 <Lisa> Q?
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15:01:41 <tiffanyburtin> present+
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15:03:22 <Charli> present+
15:03:22 <gareth> Present+
15:03:27 <Lisa> scribe: gareth
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15:03:43 <julierawe> present+
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15:04:01 <Lisa> next item
15:05:37 <Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBEEM_5hTGiuR15pqdcjv22ZRpMszT_at7W0-3QQLlc/edit?tab=t.0
15:05:51 <gareth> Scheduled a follow up conversion for july 14th  to review documents
15:09:19 <gareth> Addressing issues for new memebers around overwhelm.
15:09:56 <gareth> *members
15:10:33 <Jennie_Delisi> q+ with request from Charli
15:11:15 <tiffanyburtin> Also I don't see the Helping people doc link
15:11:20 <Jennie_Delisi> q-
15:11:25 <Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14LeA2LCa6sEotMtBhAOM_jMgyaSgjsEw8dYUzctECiw/edit?tab=t.0
15:11:57 <Jennie_Delisi> q+
15:12:06 <Lisa> ack next
15:12:22 <gareth> Please add comments to: Helping people engage with coga before July 17th
15:12:32 <gareth> 14th... sorry
15:14:39 <Lisa> next item
15:16:17 <Charli> Gareth - I think that would be helpful to see a diagram of the subgroups,too.
15:16:31 <gareth> Gareth suggests a diagram or picture of the subgroups
15:20:03 <julierawe> q+
15:20:17 <Lisa> ack next
15:21:05 <Lisa> ack next
15:21:12 <Lisa> next item
15:23:11 <Charli> Please ask Lisa to CTRL+ to magnify the content she's sharing.
15:23:15 <gareth> talking about Citations which can be inconsistent.
15:24:16 <Lisa> https://w3c.github.io/manual-of-style/#ref-section
15:24:49 <gareth> We should consider citations inline with W3C style guide.
15:24:59 <Charli> I hate to be a pill ... if Lisa could CTRL+ when she goes to a new page, that would be extremely helpful.
15:25:22 <Charli> My mic is not working
15:25:33 <Charli> Thanks, Gareth!
15:26:00 <Lisa> try and do citations to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.q3vk0hw1i5v6
15:26:41 <Charli> I'm sorry, I've lost track of what you're asking me to do.
15:26:56 <Lisa> paper to do is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VxJ0X8dC6dtL3Fm26_8XsuscGaSRR2Hr2YFgMaQeD0k/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.6gazbymiqkop
15:27:04 <Lisa> online safety
15:28:34 <Charli> So, to confirm, you want me to take the citations in the Safety doc, and make them follow the style guide?
15:28:35 <Lisa> make the citations conform to https://w3c.github.io/manual-of-style/#ref-section
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15:29:18 <Charli> Who would I check with, please?
15:29:28 <Lisa> (some are as row numbers in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eKNrofGubnpQE6mO-vxmI-1MW5nA2LDj0LxebREPRGA/edit?resourcekey=&gid=1686096268#gid=1686096268
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15:29:43 <Lisa> and some are links
15:31:15 <julierawe> Suggest Charli check with Lisa and Becca since both activel edited the safety paper.
15:31:26 <Lisa> APA are making a script but I dont think we need it
15:31:53 <Charli> I won't be able to work on it until after July 14
15:31:55 <julierawe> q+
15:32:32 <Charli> How would I contact Becca?
15:33:43 <julierawe> Please disregard my suggestion, sorry for the confusion.
15:34:33 <Lisa> ack next
15:36:06 <Lisa> next item
15:36:08 <Charli> So, to confirm, I should NOT work on the citations on that paper?
15:36:38 <Charli> Okay, thanks.
15:38:31 <julierawe> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322
15:39:05 <gareth> Scheduling approach for WCAG 3 ^^^
15:39:28 <gareth> Concerns about overall timeline for delivery
15:39:29 <julierawe> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vwD1uJOB1mpduOJ3wdCnEovW5tRZolIVgIJC0FGXwOQ/edit?slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4#slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4
15:41:30 <Jennie_Delisi> Normative?
15:41:33 <Lisa> Q+ to ask how to comment and say why it is important
15:42:21 <Lisa> and the issue with option 3
15:42:30 <tiffanyburtin> q+
15:44:10 <Lisa> ack next
15:44:11 <Zakim> Lisa, you wanted to ask how to comment and say why it is important
15:44:45 <gareth> Lisa: is there a place to comment ?
15:44:47 <julierawe> Github thread where people can coment: tps://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322
15:45:13 <julierawe> Option 1 link in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13344879
15:46:06 <julierawe> Option 2 link in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13344917
15:46:45 <julierawe> Option 3 link in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13461851
15:47:34 <gareth> Concerns about leaving out Cognitive needs
15:48:05 <julierawe> Hybrid approach link (from Makoto) in the Github thread: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13500195
15:49:35 <julierawe> Link to Lisa's comment about bias in WCAG 2: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13496203
15:52:25 <julierawe> Resharing the link to the deck that has a comparison chart of the three options: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vwD1uJOB1mpduOJ3wdCnEovW5tRZolIVgIJC0FGXwOQ/edit?slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4#slide=id.g33cfbd22cac_2_4
15:54:37 <gareth> Tiffany clarifies the incremental approach.
15:55:49 <julierawe> Link to Julie question asking if the incremental approach (option 3) can guarantee that cognitive and low vision will be prioritized in Phase 1: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13552944
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15:58:27 <Lisa> Q+
15:58:38 <Lisa> ack next
15:58:45 <julierawe> Suggest that COGA members add the eyes emoji to show that they are watching this question.
15:59:00 <Jennie_Delisi> * Apologies - have to drop
16:01:23 <julierawe> q+
16:02:02 <Lisa> ack next
16:02:04 <Lisa> ack next
16:04:56 <gareth> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13552944
16:05:06 <Lisa> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/322#discussioncomment-13552976
16:05:45 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:05:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/23-coga-minutes.html Lisa
16:38:34 <Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBEEM_5hTGiuR15pqdcjv22ZRpMszT_at7W0-3QQLlc/edit?tab=t.0
16:39:13 <Lisa> probe;em : https://docs.google.com/document/d/14LeA2LCa6sEotMtBhAOM_jMgyaSgjsEw8dYUzctECiw/edit?tab=t.0
16:39:49 <Lisa> presention for orention https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1OWODKOkKa0GfH5KNvgipVy-2uFnxtZLRHLd7J7aJlg8/edit?slide=id.gf91fe473a4_0_0#slide=id.gf91fe473a4_0_0
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