W3C

– DRAFT –
WAI-Adapt Teleconference

03 June 2025

Attendees

Present
Abhinav, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Russell
Regrets
Annalu, Lionel
Chair
Janina
Scribe
janina, Lionel_Wolberger

Meeting minutes

Date 03 Jun 2025

WKD

matatk: Notes we've been symbols focussed and not keeping up with WKD

matatk: Have more time now because have staff. Will be updating Explainer

matatk: There are also related developments from GAD, other W3C ...

matatk: Good use case for symbols will be WKD!

matatk: We can make the browser extension support symbols in WKD

matatk: We've also been thinking what web sites

matatk: Start would be WAI

janina: I think that's done!

matatk: No deliverables to show today, but WKD not forgotten; and updates coming soon

Abhinav: Notes two parts ...

Abhinav: Server side is clear; how do we do the user side?

matatk: I see two answers

matatk: Ultimately we expect browsers to support; though presentation may not be suitable for everyone

matatk: I expect some users will need extensions for their particular presentational needs

matatk: We'll demonstrate with an extension; but our goal is direct browser support

Abhinav: How do we get our initial users for totyping and feedback?

matatk: We actually have access to a fairly good userbase, e.g. WAI-IG, COGA, APA, AGWG, ...

matatk: Perhaps we could link to a embedded html form for feedback

Abhinav: Should we take up some topics today? Or take the open items for off line on list?

AAC

matatk: No work for Russell just now, I will be updating Explainer

WKD Comments

<matatk> w3c/adapt#279

<gb> Pull Request 279 Update well-known destinations explainer in accordance with TPAC 2024 (by matatk)

matatk: Notes 288 (rhel)

matatk: and 289 -- Criteria for adding new values

matatk: Looking at comments to ensure we have an issue for all that need one!

matatk: Notes 296 for localization

matatk: matatk: Looking at comment/question on what links are WKD; janina: Key use case from COGA is distraction support

matatk: styling

janina: Somewhat like W3C's new minutes page without navbar -- much like an html 2.0 page

Abhinav: points to

<matatk> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/279#pullrequestreview-2461622235 - 193 - where the anchor element has a rel attribute that contains the well known destination value of 'help'

matatk: Bit concerned about performance -- but will be more efficient if browser-based

matatk: Worth exploring; may be we separate into two parts

janina: Notes no issue?

matatk: Correct

matatk: Notes and share efficiency concern when in an extension;

<matatk> Re distractions - https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/279#pullrequestreview-2461634889

<gb> Pull Request 279 Update well-known destinations explainer in accordance with TPAC 2024 (by matatk)

issue 290

matatk: We need to explain why not using linksets

<matatk> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/279#pullrequestreview-2461673771

matatk: in alternatives considered section; mayh come back!

<matatk> Re definitions for things like sub-sites and sub-domains: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/279#pullrequestreview-2461686359

Abhinav: Explain why not using IETF wku

Abhinav: needs to be better documented

matatk: Notes one alternative previously considred

matatk: But documentation not caught up

matatk: just rhel on any link -- have arg against vecause relies on content being in every page

<matatk> ^ re https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/279#pullrequestreview-2461705061

<matatk> Re review comment (overall) from Abhinav: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/279#pullrequestreview-2870580285

<gb> Pull Request 279 Update well-known destinations explainer in accordance with TPAC 2024 (by matatk)

matatk: Also considered WKU+rhel; implementers said no

matatk: If everyone coded their sites correctly, then it would work but that doesn't happen

Abhinav: Some global WKU we can take

matatk: agree they will apply to top as well as subdomain -- but can get confusing from author

matatk: for us to suggest multiple approaches would be confusing

matatk: browser devs pointed us to existing html markup we could use that's not currently used

matatk: advantage is works for user and author as well

matatk: if concern on resources, browser devs were not concerned

matatk: Linksets can solve the repetition problem; and we may get there in a future rev

matatk: Notes no compatability problem should we eventually go to linksets

matatk: I can go ahead and edit now based on the comments

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