W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

22 May 2025

Attendees

Present
addison, Bert, David, JcK, richard
Regrets
-
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Bert

Meeting minutes

Agenda Review

Action Items

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues

<addison> #170

<gb> Action 170 reserve two days worth of meetings at tpac (on aphillips) due 2025-05-22

<addison> #169

<gb> Action 169 reply to html 10843 and css 9832 (on aphillips) due 2025-05-08

<addison> #165

<gb> Action 165 add a conformance section to suppress the respec warning to specdev (on aphillips) due 2025-04-10

addison: We are probably not going to do this. Will close the action.

<addison> close #165

<gb> Closed issue #165

<addison> #162

<gb> Action 162 poll I18N/CSS for new day/time (on aphillips) due 2025-03-25

<addison> #157

<gb> Action 157 write glossary proposal identifying options and next steps for those options (on aphillips) due 2025-02-20

Info Share

<addison> https://deploy-preview-158--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#char-string-byte-oriented

r12a: I have a omment on the definition of glyph.

<addison> https://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-glossary/#dfn-glyph

r12a: A glyph is often less than a character.
… Maybe say it is a unit of font to represent a character visually.

addison: The definition is the same as in @@

r12a: One glyph or more may provide a visual representation of a character or a group of characters,

JcK: I have difficulty with the "visual" part.

<JcK> "visual" -> "digital", but maybe both

r12a: Your def already says that it may be part of a character.
… It is a unit of the visual representation of text *in the font*.

addison: I will make a change in both places and propose that.

<r12a> https://typo.social/@ri/114542034944666016

r12a: Unicode 17-beta was released on Tuesday.
… And Uniview is up to date, with the five new scripts.

Review RADAR

<addison> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

addison: No new incoming requests.
… Atsushi reviewed DID and found no issues.
… Move it to completed?

Pending Issues

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending

<addison> i18n-activity#2005

<gb> Issue 2005 Should vertical tab character be included in ASCII whitespace? (by w3cbot) [pending] [tracker] [s:html] [whatwg]

addison: Somebody asked if vertical tab should be included in whitespace. In specdef we have a table.

<addison> https://deploy-preview-158--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#char_whitespace

addison: We probably don't have to do anything to specdef.

JcK: Seems reasonable.

"Isomorphic" string PR in Specdev

r12a: Another infoshare:

<addison> https://deploy-preview-158--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#char-string-byte-oriented

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/tayo/tyj.html

r12a: One of the new scripts in Unicode 17 is a vertical-only script: Tayo

addison: blocks go left to right in my browser...

r12a: Can fix that, CSS property writing-mode.

Bert: Read the specdev section and found it reads well.

addison: Give it another week?

JcK: I glanced at it. I will try to read in more detail next week.

I18N Glossary Next Steps

<addison> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jGup6Z9dO0OAeSfM6zZhTeT_E5eM9lDOVWo_Ec37mn0/edit?tab=t.0

addison: We are few today. Should we talk about the glossary?

r12a: We'll probably need Fuqiao to talk about the glossary.

addison: ... since the task will mostly fall on him :-)

AOB?

r12a: Do people like the way we divided up the digests?

addison: There are many. But I think they are fine.

r12a: About last week's discussionon fonts and fingerprinting: the solution to make a privacy opt-in seems a good proposal.

<addison> ZainabAq Zainab Rizvi

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All speakers: addison, Bert, JcK, r12a

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