13:29:38 RRSAgent has joined #i18n 13:29:42 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-i18n-irc 13:29:49 agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b7edae68-f52c-4aab-a1a6-3c37459e0786/20250522T150000/ 13:29:49 clear agenda 13:29:49 agenda+ Agenda Review 13:29:49 agenda+ Action Items 13:29:51 agenda+ Info Share 13:29:53 agenda+ Review RADAR 13:29:55 agenda+ Pending Issues 13:29:57 Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 13:29:58 agenda+ I18N Glossary Next Steps 13:30:00 agenda+ "Isomorphic" string PR in Specdev 13:30:02 agenda+ AOB? 13:30:06 Chair: Addison Phillips 13:30:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-i18n-minutes.html addison 13:50:01 gb has joined #i18n 14:02:49 scribe+ 14:03:27 present+ 14:04:01 JcK has joined #i18n 14:04:38 present+ addison, richard 14:04:57 present+ JcK 14:05:06 zakim, take up agendum 1 14:05:06 agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:05:08 agenda? 14:05:41 zakim, take up agendum 2 14:05:41 agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:05:51 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues 14:06:00 #170 14:06:01 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/170 -> Action 170 reserve two days worth of meetings at tpac (on aphillips) due 2025-05-22 14:06:17 #169 14:06:18 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/169 -> Action 169 reply to html 10843 and css 9832 (on aphillips) due 2025-05-08 14:06:29 #165 14:06:29 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/165 -> Action 165 add a conformance section to suppress the respec warning to specdev (on aphillips) due 2025-04-10 14:07:13 addison: We are probably not going to do this. Will close the action. 14:07:21 close #165 14:07:22 Closed -> issue #165 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/165 14:07:27 #162 14:07:28 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/162 -> Action 162 poll I18N/CSS for new day/time (on aphillips) due 2025-03-25 14:07:40 #157 14:07:40 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/157 -> Action 157 write glossary proposal identifying options and next steps for those options (on aphillips) due 2025-02-20 14:08:11 zakim, take up agendum 3 14:08:11 agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:08:21 q+ 14:08:27 ack next 14:09:01 https://deploy-preview-158--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#char-string-byte-oriented 14:09:55 r12a: I have a omment on the definition of glyph. 14:10:00 https://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-glossary/#dfn-glyph 14:10:20 ... A glyph is often less than a character. 14:10:51 ... Maybe say it is a unit of font to represent a character visually. 14:11:18 addison: The definition is the same as in @@ 14:11:58 r12a: One glyph or more may provide a visual representation of a character or a group of characters, 14:12:18 JcK: I have difficulty with the "visual" part. 14:13:16 "visual" -> "digital", but maybe both 14:13:37 r12a: Your def already says that it may be part of a character. 14:14:00 ... It is a unit of the visual representation of text *in the font*. 14:14:55 addison: I will make a change in both places and propose that. 14:15:48 https://typo.social/@ri/114542034944666016 14:15:55 r12a: Unicode 17-beta was released on Tuesday. 14:16:17 ... And Uniview is up to date, with the five new scripts. 14:16:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-i18n-minutes.html addison 14:16:57 zakim, take up agendum 4 14:16:57 agendum 4 -- Review RADAR -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:17:04 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1 14:17:15 addison: No new incoming requests. 14:17:31 ... Atsushi reviewed DID and found no issues. 14:17:41 ... Move it to completed? 14:17:47 zakim, take up agendum 5 14:17:47 agendum 5 -- Pending Issues -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:17:54 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending 14:18:04 i18n-activity#2005 14:18:05 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/2005 -> Issue 2005 Should vertical tab character be included in ASCII whitespace? (by w3cbot) [pending] [tracker] [s:html] [whatwg] 14:18:41 addison: Somebody if vertical tab should be included in whitespace. In specdef we have a table. 14:18:51 https://deploy-preview-158--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#char_whitespace 14:19:00 ... We probably don't have to do anything to specdef. 14:19:08 s/Somebody/Somebody asked/ 14:19:27 JcK: Seems reasonable. 14:19:31 agenda? 14:19:42 zakim, take up agendum 7 14:19:42 agendum 7 -- "Isomorphic" string PR in Specdev -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:20:01 r12a: Another infoshare: 14:20:01 https://deploy-preview-158--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#char-string-byte-oriented 14:20:12 https://r12a.github.io/scripts/tayo/tyj.html 14:20:30 ... One of the new scripts in Unicode 17 is a vertical-only script: Tayo 14:23:03 addison: blocks go left to right in my browser... 14:23:55 r12a: Can fix that, CSS property writing-mode. 14:26:26 Bert: Read the specdev section and found it reads well. 14:26:42 addison: Give it another week? 14:27:47 JcK: I glanced at it. I will try to read in more detail next week. 14:27:53 David has joined #I18n 14:28:11 zakim, take up agendum 6 14:28:11 agendum 6 -- I18N Glossary Next Steps -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:28:19 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jGup6Z9dO0OAeSfM6zZhTeT_E5eM9lDOVWo_Ec37mn0/edit?tab=t.0 14:28:55 addison: We are few today. Should we talk about the glossary? 14:30:01 r12a: We'll probably need Fuqiao to talk about the glossary. 14:30:22 addison: ... since the task will mostly fall on him :-) 14:30:23 agenda? 14:31:05 zakim, take up agendum 8 14:31:05 agendum 8 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:31:13 r12a: Do people like the way we divided up the digests? 14:31:27 addison: There are many. But I think they are fine. 14:32:17 present+ David 14:34:11 r12a: About last week's discussionon fonts and fingerprinting: the solution to make a privacy opt-in seems a good proposal. 14:35:42 ZainabAq Zainab Rizvi 14:38:08 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-i18n-minutes.html addison 15:03:52 bigbluehat has joined #i18n 15:04:42 addison, i reviewed the bytestring section — looks good to me ! 15:15:15 atsushi has joined #i18n 16:31:04 zakim, who is here? 16:31:04 Present: Bert, addison, richard, JcK, David 16:31:06 On IRC I see atsushi, bigbluehat, gb, RRSAgent, Zakim, addison, plh, xfq, r12a, fantasai, koji, astearns, jyasskin, alastairc, Rachael, cwilso, eemeli, csarven, Bert, agendabot, 16:31:06 ... florian 16:31:08 zakim, bye 16:31:08 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Bert, addison, richard, JcK, David 16:31:08 Zakim has left #i18n