W3C

– DRAFT –
COGA WCAG 3 coordination subgroup

22 may 2025

Attendees

Present
gareth, julierawe, rashmi, tiffanyburtin
Regrets
-
Chair
julierawe
Scribe
julierawe

Meeting minutes

<rashmi> Link [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0]

<rashmi> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0

<rashmi> Use color to aid orientation and focus

<Lisa> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3743993/

<kirkwood> ordera: draw attention -> focus -

<kirkwood> too many draw of attention can increase overwhelm and increase cognitive load

AG charter renewal's proposed requirements for WCAG 3

https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306

The Accessibility Guidelines Working Group (AG) is getting ready to renew its 2-year charter

This is an important time for COGA to support requirements we like/want and to express concerns about requirements that might make it harder to get our work into WCAG 3

There is a lot of support (thumbs-up) for allowing assertions and conditional requirements—both are important for getting COGA work into WCAG 3

There are concerns about using short names instead of numbers for each requirement in WCAG 3. One reason for doing this is so that users can sort/filter WCAG 3 in different ways.

One reason to keep the numbers is that software and cross language conversations rely on the numbers.

A third requirement—to allow new ideas to start as best practices in WCAG 3—does not have much support.

tiffanyburtin expressed concern that best practices won't be followed. Would prefer to start new ideas as supplemental requirements.

gareth agrees. Best practices are seen as "nice to have."

julierawe There's also room for confusion because WCAG uses "best practices" in a way that is different from the rest of the industry

https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13051999

This requirement is to use tags that would allow users to sort/filter the requirements.

https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13208423

This alternate wording takes out "user-centered statements," which is jargony, and adds a sentence about user needs, which is very important. I added my thumbs-up to the alternate wording.

julierawe added a github comment about the following requirement: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13236644

julierawe recommends other COGA folks add a thumbs-up to her comment

https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13236644

The proposal to have a smaller set of requirements for smaller organizations does not have a lot of support. Julie added her thumbs-down. https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13236644

Concerns about this proposal: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13052063

And concerns about the proposed alternate wording for that proposal: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13208596

julierawe added a thumbs-down to both

Main comment we want to thumbs-down: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13052063

Alternate wording we want to thumbs-down: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13208596

julierawe added a comment and encourages COGA folks to add their thumbs-up: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13236783

The group discussed a draft requirement about 3rd party content: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13052067

The alternate wording for this draft requirement is also concerning: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13208673

julierawe added a comment and encourages COGA folks to add their thumbs-up: https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/306#discussioncomment-13236846

gareth There needs to be a bigger push here

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