Meeting minutes
Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 w3c/pointerevents#445 / https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?q=label%3Aneeds-wpt+
PLH: i have a task to make a list of all new features and their WPTs. i'm also planning to add links in the spec itself in the right places
PLH: hitting some respec shortcomings, but working around it
PLH: let me know if this slows you down
Patrick: going through the 2 that we still have marked as needs-wpt:
Patrick: w3c/
Mustaq: no progress from me...YET
Patrick: next w3c/
Olli: there's a comment from me ... somewhere (bugzilla?) where I asked Masayuki to write a test
<smaug> https://
Olli: that's the equivalent on bugzilla .... he's testing all the possible weird cases
Olli: pointerrawupdate should be shipping in Firefox 140
Olli: current nightly, so should release in... June?
Olli: confirming pointerrawupdate is enabled by default
ACTION: mustaq to address #534, olli to check with masayuki for #509
Any particular new issues filed? https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues
Olli: I think Masayuki filed an interesting recent one...
<smaug> w3c/
Olli: thats mainly question for you Mustaq. Masayuki changed Firefox behaviour to follow Chrome behaviour...
Mustaq: spec/implementation was written more in a mouse-centric view. there is some hack there
Olli: it's also hacky in Firefox, but yeah there is a compat issue
ACTION: Mustaq to review latest on #508
Patrick: btw I changed labels in our issue tracker ... what used to be "future" is now "v4" (as the future is now)
Patrick: but we're not committing to doing them of course, we can still kick them into longer grass / close
PLH: i'd advise not to rush into doing v4 stuff while we're still in CR for v3
Patrick: any other issues? latest from Masayuki seem to be edge cases, but don't think we need to try to sneak them into v3
Olli: the dragstart one #552 I think is clear, just that it's defined in HTML spec rather than PE
[discussion on other issues]
<smaug> Just FYI, interop-25 (even though the url has 2023 in it) https://
TPAC 2025
<smaug> oh, I'll be at https://
Patrick: just mentioning that it looks almost certain that I *will* be physically at TPAC, so worth exploring further if there are any other groups we want to meet with/discuss things (for those coming, I believe Olli is also planning to be there)
Olli: yes
Patrick: I was thinking for instance Internationalisation and/or CSSWG on the topic of logical values for touch-action - we have my naive draft PR from ages ago, would be good to get feedback from them on whether we're on right track
Rob: another interesting discussion would also be panning with mouse and how that could be accommodated through touch-action
Patrick: is that in context of CSS-based carousels?
Rob: not necessarily tied to them, but yes authors will likely want to use that capability in combination with carousels
Patrick: excellent, for next meeting, I'll start jotting down some more fleshed out ideas of which groups we should ask/approach about possible quick meetings while at TPAC. deadline is... 20 June I believe, to let organisers know about group meetings
Patrick: as ever, thank you all - particularly thank you to Philippe for the work on the spec linking to WPTs. catch you next time