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08 May 2025

Attendees

Present
AvneeshSingh, CharlesL1, gautierchomel, George, gpellegrino, Madeleine, mgarrish
Regrets
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Chair
AvneeshSingh
Scribe
gpellegrino

Meeting minutes

<AvneeshSingh> zaim, next agendum

elizabeth: I'm new, I'm from eBOUND Canada, I'm happy to be here

Next steps after the release of Accessibility metadata display Guide for digital publications 2.0

AvneeshSingh: we achieved a big milestone on publishing the Accessibility metadata display Guide for digital publications 2.0
… not it's the time to plan our future work

<AvneeshSingh> https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/issues

AvneeshSingh: we already have some issues in the tracker
… any other issues?

gautierchomel: I think we have an isue with placeholders
… in strings, it's the most important issue for me

gpellegrino: will the next version be a minor version?

AvneeshSingh: for sure it will not be 3.0, maybe 2.1 or 2.0.1

George: I think we have cases in which no information is displayed because of broken metadata

gpellegrino: I think it's important to get feedback from implementers

AvneeshSingh: we can ask the implementors we know, to get some feedback
… at the same time we have some "simple" issues in the tracker that we can fix

gautierchomel: the issue that was raised by Hadrien was the same I mentioned about placeholders

AvneeshSingh: what about crosswalk on different metadata standards?

ChrisOliverOttawa: we are working on it, it took us a little bit of time
… but now we're working on MARC 21

gpellegrino: There was also a work in IFLA for having accessibility metadata about DAISY in MARC 21

George: in the BISG call today, we spoke about making an explainer on accessibility metadata for publishers, librarians, etc.
… there is a question on how to pass accessibility metadata to libraries

ChrisOliverOttawa: there is a work in IFLA for defining terminology that can be understand in different languages and by different audience

<CharlesL1> https://w3c.github.io/a11y-discov-vocab/crosswalk/

CharlesL1: We're working to improve the crosswalk
… we have EPUB, ONIX, EPUB to MARC 21 and ONIX to MARC

<ChrisOliverOttawa> p+

gpellegrino: I see a big problem in the proliferating of metadata standards

CharlesL1: I see the issue, we added the metadata as suggested by the people in the community group

ChrisOliverOttawa: I don't think there is a desire to create differences, MARC is a format for sharing information
… I think that having definitions is important

AvneeshSingh: what's the way forward on this crosswalk?

Chris_ONIX: the proposal for using these columns is from Chris Carr, we may ask him
… on the ONIX and Schema.org part I think we're nearly there

gautierchomel: not having the crosswalk is an issue at the moment
… we're seeing it in France, with public libraries
… for the technical part, I think we should find a way to make it more readable

George: in the guidelines we have compact and descriptive statements, and techniques referencing to them, will this work with MARC?
… second question on the explainer for educators, librarians, publishers; I'm not sure how to write something for librarians at the moment

ChrisOliverOttawa: I may put you in contact with chair of the working group working on terminology in IFLA

George: BISG will make a blog post in June and endorse the guidelines for displaying metadata, and something similar should be done for libraries

ChrisOliverOttawa: It's not that simple, some softwares for managing libraries are quite "static" and it's not simple to add new types of metadata
… there is also a work for managing the source of metadata in MARC

George: I know there was a proposal of using the display viewer made by DAISY and use the output text as a note field in MARC

Improvements required in the localization repository:

AvneeshSingh: we have the localization repository with all the JSON localized in different languages
… do we need some improvements?
… there is an open PR, may we merge it?

gautierchomel: I have another PR for fixing small things in the localization viewer

Other work items for the accessibility task force of Publishing CG?

JonasLillqvist: in the JSON file, in the metadata section, there is a "variant: canonical"
… it's in all JSON files
… should we use another term?

gautierchomel: we over-engineered this work
… I think that metadata is not useful anymore...

AvneeshSingh: any other work that we think is a priority and that we should take over?

CharlesL1: what about best practices for image descriptions?

George: we have some issues open about the "back button" in reading systems, the citation tools

AvneeshSingh: I think we should think about all these type of bestpractices
… thank you to everyone, let's meet in two weeks

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 244 (Thu Feb 27 01:23:09 2025 UTC).

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All speakers: AvneeshSingh, CharlesL1, Chris_ONIX, ChrisOliverOttawa, elizabeth, gautierchomel, George, gpellegrino, JonasLillqvist

Active on IRC: AvneeshSingh, CharlesL1, Chris_ONIX, ChrisOliverOttawa, gautierchomel, George, gpellegrino, JonasLillqvist, Madeleine, mgarrish