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PDF-AAM Teleconference

07 May 2025

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Meeting minutes

<zakk> +present

Import PDF Association spreadsheet into HTML tables

Zach: We've been talking on the PDF Association side. I think we should do this in smaller chunks
… Hard for some of them to monitor this through HTML tables
… Decidded we'd be doing 10 - 12 table exports, as I can run my export scripts through smaller batches
… We've been working on our ssheet to match with the values on the HTML tables
… Idea is to start from structural values
… Saw some of your comments, for example the ToC repeated six times
… Paul, what structure elements you think are good to import?

Paul: Document, list, table, paragraph, figure, figure formula,

Zach: Also ones that we are sure of the mappings.
… These would help ups get an established process

Daniel: +1 to low-hanging fruits

Zach: This will also help us determine the roles and attributes from the individual tables
… We still don't have one complete on the W3C document, priority should be to have some complete

Paul: PDF association next meeting is 20 May. I have in the agenda to have a look at what I've done and look for a path forward

Zach: I still can use the export sccript to get an 80% completion of what needs to be on the W3C documents

<zakk> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g1Khanw4PbBpcNBqwyyDXyyWfMHARpW9/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=112723490806728429572&rtpof=true&sd=true

Daniel: +1 to go for those which are complete. Could you share a link to your working spreadsheet?

Zach: I've removed a few columns from the old one to just what is required
… As we got more feedback from you all at the W3C side we've realized some of this infor was not needed
… Also the postprocessing of the index file adds some of the info and we weren't aware of that

Zach: People are used to working on the spreadsheet, so we need to find a middle ground

Zach: Maybe we should first focus on paragraph and div. For div there are several cases, similarly to what the `a` element has in HTML

Paul: Should we include one more where there is not an HTML but not an ARIA role?

Zach: Yes, that's a good one

Zach: Maybe for next PDF association meeting we should focus on creating these HTML tables and have them ready for next W3C meeting

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