Meeting minutes
This meeting
Nigel: Our agenda is DAPT and IMSC 1.3, then charter questions.
… Given the regrets from Cyril and Pierre there's not much we can do on the first two.
… Thinking about the DST change and attendance difficulties,
… I propose that we move an hour earlier in UTC from next call so we share the load of the
… DST mismatch between the US and Europe equally.
Atsushi: I'm in i18n in the previous hour so I would have a clash for the next meeting
Gary: We should check if it would make a difference to Pierre and Cyril
Nigel: Atsushi, are you OK if we meet without you?
Atsushi: Yes, but I'll be on IRC if needed
Nigel: So we'll do that for the next call
DAPT
Nigel: We published CR!
Nigel: Thank you to everybody, this is good news
… I noticed when previewing it, the styling isn't ideal in dark mode. I created a PR to fix it, but the W3C stylesheet seems broken
… Can we fix it in-place?
… I can't do anything about W3C's fixup script
Gary: It should be possible to do it all in CSS, you'd have 4 blocks of stuff in the CSS
Nigel: But there's a bug in the fixup script that it doesn't apply the class on page load
Gary: Is there an issue open against that script?
… Would be good to open an issue
Nigel: Making it readable in dark mode would be an improvement
<nigel> +1 to opening an issue - I don't know which repo fixup.js is in though
Nigel: Atsushi, can you look into the styling problem?
Atsushi: I can't make it happen before publication
Nigel: It works OK only if the in-page setting agrees with the browser-level setting
Team questions about the Charter
Team question in strategy issue thread
Nigel: There are two questions, one on VTT, one on TTML2
Atsushi: This comment was raised in the Team's final review before submitting for AC review
… The main concern from the wider team is that development of these specs seems to be suspended
… Is the WG really intending to continue development especially for the w3c/ttml2#1211 issue?
Nigel: I'm looking at the i18n discussion, The CSS and xsl:fo question needs a bit of research
Nigel: Other concerns?
Atsushi: I think the team wants comment from the WG on its intentions
Nigel: Important to note, with DAPT we'll need some tweaks to TTML2, which I predict we'll do
… The main TTML editor has stepped away a bit. I've raised the question in the past if someone else wants to help with editing
… Even if we don't have another named editor, I'd intend to continue with TTML2, and publish new CRs and go to Rec, at least for TTML2 2nd edition
… I accept it's been a long time since we published CR
… There has been positive discussion about this from other participants in the past
… I feel like we're waiting to have a tight scope defined for the changes. Implementation will be important for getting out of CR
… We wouldn't make a breaking change in TTML2 2nd edition
Gary: On WebVTT, we do want to proceed. Apple championed trying to get VTT into Interop 2025
… It's not in the main Interop this year though. Could be a candidate for full Interop next year
… Should ask Apple to participate in the group more actively
… I'd want to work on it more if there are also others more actively working on it
… It's slow right now as it's just one person doing it in their free time
Nigel: I can sympathise with that
Gary: With the Interop 2025 review focus, I think the ball has started rolling again, so hope we can make progress
Nigel: Is it enough to show the Team that there's this interest, if not the active participation? What can the Team do to encourage participation?
Atsushi: The comments are statements of concern, so we just need to talk
Gary: Seems less of an issue for TTML, but it's more complicated with WebVTT, where seeking additional contributors would be greatly appreciated
Atsushi: This step is about reducing risk of formal of objections at AC review. Referring to WG discussions should be used in the review
Nigel: If the Team wants to have a separate call, I can be available
Gary: Me too, yes
Nigel: Anything else to raise?
(nothing)
Meeting close
Nigel: Thanks everyone, let's adjourn. [adjourns meeting]