16:00:13 RRSAgent has joined #tt 16:00:17 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/03/13-tt-irc 16:00:17 RRSAgent, make logs Public 16:00:18 Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 16:00:23 scribe: nigel 16:00:25 Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/302 16:00:33 Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/02/27-tt-minutes.html 16:04:17 Present: Nigel, Chris_Needham, Gary 16:04:21 Chair: Gary, Nigel 16:04:33 Topic: This meeting 16:06:44 Present+ Atsushi 16:07:00 Regrets: Andreas, Pierre, Cyril 16:07:36 Nigel: Our agenda is DAPT and IMSC 1.3, then charter questions. 16:07:51 .. Given the regrets from Cyril and Pierre there's not much we can do on the first two. 16:09:20 .. Thinking about the DST change and attendance difficulties, 16:09:29 cpn has joined #tt 16:09:40 .. I propose that we move an hour earlier in UTC from next call so we share the load of the 16:09:51 .. DST mismatch between the US and Europe equally. 16:10:07 scribe+ cpn 16:10:15 Atsushi: I'm in i18n in the previous hour so I would have a clash for the next meeting 16:10:28 Gary: We should check if it would make a difference to Pierre and Cyril 16:12:45 Nigel: Atsushi, are you OK if we meet without you? 16:13:01 Atsushi: Yes, but I'll be on IRC if needed 16:13:11 Nigel: So we'll do that for the next call 16:15:03 Topic: DAPT 16:15:39 Nigel: We published CR! 16:15:49 -> DAPT 1st CRS https://www.w3.org/TR/2025/CR-dapt-20250311/ 16:16:01 Nigel: Thank you to everybody, this is good news 16:16:32 ... I noticed when previewing it, the styling isn't ideal in dark mode. I created a PR to fix it, but the W3C stylesheet seems broken 16:16:46 ... Can we fix it in-place? 16:17:54 ... I can't do anything about W3C's fixup script 16:18:42 Gary: It should be possible to do it all in CSS, you'd have 4 blocks of stuff in the CSS 16:18:56 Nigel: But there's a bug in the fixup script that it doesn't apply the class on page load 16:19:55 Gary: Is there an issue open against that script? 16:20:14 ... Would be good to open an issue 16:20:38 Nigel: Making it readable in dark mode would be an improvement 16:20:38 +1 16:21:01 s/+1/+1 to opening an issue - I don't know which repo fixup.js is in though 16:21:45 Nigel: Atsushi, can you look into the styling problem? 16:22:07 Atsushi: I can't make it happen before publication 16:24:24 Nigel: It works OK only if the in-page setting agrees with the browser-level setting 16:27:22 Topic: Team questions about the Charter 16:27:59 -> Team question in strategy issue thread https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/487#issuecomment-2698526016 16:28:20 Nigel: There are two questions, one on VTT, one on TTML2 16:28:48 Atsushi: This comment was raised in the Team's final review before submitting for AC review 16:29:30 ... The main concern from the wider team is that development of these specs seems to be suspended 16:29:44 ... Is the WG really intending to continue development especially for the @@ issue? 16:31:42 Nigel: I'm looking at the i18n discussion, The CSS and xsl:fo question needs a bit of research 16:32:16 Nigel: Other concerns? 16:32:34 Atsushi: I think the team wants comment from the WG on its intentions 16:32:54 Nigel: Important to note, with DAPT we'll need some tweaks to TTML2, which I predict we'll do 16:33:28 ... The main TTML editor has stepped away a bit. I've raised the question in the past if someone else wants to help with editing 16:33:57 ... Even if we don't have another named editor, I'd intend to continue with TTML2, and publish new CRs and go to Rec, at least for TTML2 2nd edition 16:34:24 ... I accept it's been a long time since we published CR 16:34:30 ... There has been positive discussion about this from other participants in the past 16:34:52 ... I feel like we're waiting to have a tight scope defined for the changes. Implementation will be important for getting to CR 16:35:10 ... We wouldn't make a breaking change in TTML2 2nd edition 16:35:23 s/to CR/out of CR 16:36:23 Gary: On WebVTT, we do want to proceed. Apple championed trying to get VTT into Interop 2025 16:36:54 ... It's not in the main Interop this year though. Could be a candidate for full Interop next year 16:37:12 ... Should ask Apple to participate in the group more actively 16:37:50 ... I'd want to work on it more if there are also others more actively working on it 16:38:16 ... It's slow right now as it's just one person doing it in their free time 16:38:44 Nigel: I can sympathise with that 16:39:04 Gary: With the Interop 2025 review focus, I think the ball has started rolling again, so hope we can make progress 16:40:15 Nigel: Is it enough to show the Team that there's this interest, if not the active participation? What can the Team do to encourage participation? 16:43:19 Atsushi: The comments are statements of concern, so we just need to talk 16:43:53 Gary: Seems less of an issue for TTML, but it's more complicated with WebVTT, where seeking additional contributors would be greatly appreciated 16:44:50 Atsushi: This step is about reducing risk of formal of objections at AC review. Referring to WG discussions should be used in the review 16:45:25 Nigel: If the Team wants to have a separate call, I can be available 16:46:08 Gary: Me too, yes 16:47:49 Nigel: Anything else to raise? 16:48:01 (nothing) 16:48:05 Topic: Meeting close 16:49:33 Nigel: Thanks everyone, let's adjourn. [adjourns meeting] 16:49:39 rrsagent, make minutes 16:49:40 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/13-tt-minutes.html nigel 16:59:17 s/@@/w3c/ttml2#1211 17:00:41 rrsagent, make minutes 17:00:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/13-tt-minutes.html nigel 17:00:51 Adam_Page has joined #tt 17:01:41 scribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics 17:01:47 zakim, end meeting 17:01:47 As of this point the attendees have been Nigel, Chris_Needham, Gary, Atsushi 17:01:50 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 17:01:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/13-tt-minutes.html Zakim 17:01:57 I am happy to have been of service, nigel; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 17:01:58 Zakim has left #tt 17:02:12 rrsagent, excuse us 17:02:12 I see no action items