W3C

– DRAFT –
Invisible XML Community Group

04 February 2025

Attendees

Present
Bethan, David, Fredrik, John, Norm, Steven
Regrets
Nico
Chair
Steven
Scribe
John

Meeting minutes

<Steven> rssagent, make logs public

<Steven> Steven: That link works

presnet+: bethan

Previous Minutes

Accepted

Status Reports

bethan: probably better to work on debugging & support tools rather than another implementation

frederik: Python can link to C so it could be linked from my implementation

Frederik: fixed a bug David reported

Frederik: the implementation does renaming

steven: 14th March MarkupUK deadline - thinking of a paper on modularisation issues

Ambiguity utility

Frederik: Can be useful in cases such as catchall e.g. protocol decoding. Could be solved by the not or the exclusion operator

Frederik: adding cost to the tree and choose the lowest cost route among the possible trees.

Fredrik: do the pruning during the serialisation, rather than during the parse

Norm: CoffeePot can show the graph for ambiguous solutions

steven: we should look at this area on the backburner and possible papers

Use pragmas for the prolog?

Bethan: we have consensus on requirements 1-5 of the document

https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/master/proposals/pragma_req.md

Discussion on Items 6 & 7. Consensus on 6 "It should be straightforward for processors to ignore pragmas they do

not recognize."

Consensus on 7: "Processors must be able to determine unambiguously whether they

Item 8 "A pragma must be distinguishable as such from all other grammar

constructs, even if the processor in question does not recognize the

specific pragma." - some discussion about presence in the XML and the readability of the presence of a pragma

Steven: I feel strongly that the pragma is purely for the processor and not part of iXML

The argument is about whether iXML should support attachment location for pragmas within its definition.

Item 8 is accepted

norm: More discussion on email is probably warranted

<john> Next meeting: 18th February

n> rrsagent, publish minutes

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Maybe present: frederik, presnet+

All speakers: bethan, frederik, Fredrik, Norm, presnet+, steven

Active on IRC: john, Steven