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Accessibility at the Edge (A11yEdge) Community Group Teleconference

29 Jan 2025

Attendees

Present
Chris, janina, Lionel_Wolberger
Regrets
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Chair
Janina
Scribe
Lionel_Wolberger

Meeting minutes

Information Architecture Questions

Chris: How does employment considerations fit into this document?

Lionel_Wolberger: Post source provides opportunities for new types of employment

janina: Employment, in general, is not the remit of W3C

Chris: Can we provide an example of how accessibility capabilities can be made available post-source

Lionel_Wolberger: Demonstrated UserWay on a popular website, to answer the question

New additions to the document

janina: New section 6.2

Lionel_Wolberger: Parag 1, 'Nevertheless users should not be forced to tolerate advertising content injections that impair page accessibility and functionality.'

<janina> Let's make it less polemical

Lionel_Wolberger: forced is not needed here. Can be worded in a more passive way, 'users may be presented with advertising content injections that fail to meet accessibility success criteria'

<janina> Can drop the apositive in Automatability

Lionel_Wolberger: automatability: can say drily, 'in most cases' and leave it at that.

janina: Next, let's look at 2.2

Lionel_Wolberger: 2.1 opens with the Editor's note. Remove editor's note.
… and remove the Source / tradeoffs / benefit / automatability

janina: Done

Diagram improvement, if any

janina: When they are labeled (A), (B), (C), I struggled with (B)
… it suggests, to me, location of services. That (B) is a different location than (A)

janina: The ultimate arbiter, who Authorizes which content is made available to the user agent for mashup, is always the content publisher: what we call, the 'source'
… in fact, even a single website source, without post-source, may be served from multiple physical servers, united behind a load balancer that provides a single IP address
… or provided from thousands of globally distributed CDN endpoints
… all of the above is understood as a single 'source' or single location

Lionel_Wolberger: I revised the diagram as discussed and will share in the public list

Knowledge of the end user

Chris: Modern devices, such as a car, are very complex and not fully understood by the end user
… the end user does have to understand some subset of all its features and aspects, e.g., with a car, most drivers will understand tire pressure and engine temperature
… these complexities of the internet, that the host authorizes the content, and it is delivered from many -- sometimes more than 90 -- different sources

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 242 (Fri Dec 20 18:32:17 2024 UTC).

Diagnostics

All speakers: Chris, janina, Lionel_Wolberger

Active on IRC: janina, Lionel_Wolberger