W3C

– DRAFT –
APA Weekly Telecon

08 January 2025

Attendees

Present
Demelza, Dr_Keith, Fredrik, guide, https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Style, IrfanA, janina, JenStrickland, JonCohn, matatk, NehaJ, PaulG, steveF, style, style guide https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Style
Regrets
Roy
Chair
Matthew
Scribe
janina, IrfanA

Meeting minutes

Agenda Review & Announcements

CTAUR CfC

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2025Jan/0000.html

janina: candidate publications . there is call for consensus for the following documents.

https://raw.githack.com/w3c/ctaur/FPWD-2022/index.html

* CTAUR was developed by our Research Questions Task Force (RQTF) over the past 2.5 years. It's FPWD was published in October 2022, and we published a second wide review draft in June 2024. RQTF's resolution requesting publication of the above snapshot version as an APA Note is recorded here:

https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-rqtf-minutes.html#2b8e

* The W3C Note track process is described here:

https://www.w3.org/2023/Process-20231103/#note-track

please review and comment

Special APA Telecon on Music Tech this Friday

janina: organizational meeting to know who wants to talk about music tech.

janina: we may have a lot of work on this and willing to facilitate

<matatk> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/29ae9446-29a6-4a1e-b91f-6221a41ed0b8/

janina: coming friday at 9AM we are meeting to discuss this.

matatk: it should have gone to everybody. make sure that you can access the link. if not, reach out to Janina, Roy, or Matthew

Re-chartering

matatk: Notes the biannual rechartering heartbeat--it's now our time to recharter

matatk: Notes we review charters so should be familiar: mission, remit, scope, deliverables

matatk: every couple of years, the working group must renew the charter which is a standard process.

matatk: If we previously promissed a deliverable--we update. Complete? Not? If not, why?

matatk: Notes APA participants are almost all in at one APA TF. We need info on deliverables to add to draft charter

matatk: Also note any new deliverables

<steveF> apologies for my lateness

janina: we need TF inputs by end of January on current charter.

Fazio: if you send me the repo, I can work on this and create a github issue if required.

Spec review requests

<JenStrickland> Do we have style guides for our documents? I notice that we are not using the Oxford comma in the CTAUR document, for example.

matatk: Jen is asking if we have a styleguide for our document

janina: APA mostly follow oxford commas

Input events

<matatk> w3c/a11y-request#95

<matatk> Due: 2024-12-19

matatk: Most recently review by Dr Keith and Matthew -- No concerns presently

matatk: Noted 2017 era requests unconfirmed -- Implemented? Not? We don't know

matatk: May have not been sufficiently clear

matatk: We wanted notification to a11y api of a text change

matatk: This one of the two we don't have an update on

matatk: Notes we're still discovering history that was minuted

matatk: Asks Janina to help find Lyon TPAC minutes conversation

WebRTC API

<matatk> w3c/a11y-request#98

<matatk> Due: 2025-01-31

<matatk> janina: will look this week

Final Review Request of seven (7) W3C VCWG Specifications

matatk: Notes most changelogs are human readable

<matatk> w3c/a11y-request#99

<matatk> Due: about now-ish

WebCodecs

<matatk> w3c/a11y-request#97

<matatk> Due: 2025-02-28

matatk: Is this a path to separate foreground/background audio? To minimize audio distractions?

janina: The MAUR calls it Clear Audio

matatk: Notes mentioned in TAG to check possibilities

matatk: Notes due end of February

Fredrik: Will help

NehaJ: Also me

matatk: [On ACT rules] Resuming a review ...

matatk: Was an email in December

<PaulG> w3c/csswg-drafts#11185

Comment review requests

Update the Writing Testable Outcomes Document

<matatk> source: w3c/wcag3#47

<matatk> tracking: w3c/a11y-review#217

matatk: Is guidance howto objectively test WCAG3 normative requirements

matatk: Currently looking on updating maturity levels within the WCAG; not our more global mm

<Fazio> Again, I think they should stop using that verbiage "maturity"

matatk: Wondering whether it's a labeling problem--maybe they mislabeled in our repo

Fazio: The terminology clashes with our mm; we need to resolve to avoid confusions

matatk: Recalls initial conversation at TPAC

matatk: We can figure out how to go further

[focusgroup] clarify and handle cases where scrollable regions have focusgroups (accessiblity)

<matatk> source: openui/open-ui#1008

<matatk> tracking: w3c/a11y-review#190

matatk: Is anybody involved with OpenAI work?

Fredrik: I am interested; could be involved

matatk: Not CSS scroll; but related

matatk: Chairs can do a bit of triage aqnd then return to an APA agenda

CSS Update (Paul)

<PaulG> w3c/csswg-drafts#11185

PaulG: A change to native behavior

PaulG: Will trigger hover when hovering over li items

PaulG: So an optin

matatk: Changing default style sheet

PaulG: No, the power of css to control such things

matatk: Only mentions hover, not focus ...

PaulG: Select would still have the focus, no?

PaulG: There's proposals for hover-stop, etc

PaulG: we now have more control over native widgets, and this is some outcome

matatk: Should picker get focus? Platforms diverge; but the sudo helping this make more distinct

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 242 (Fri Dec 20 18:32:17 2024 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: Fazio

All speakers: Fazio, Fredrik, janina, matatk, NehaJ, PaulG

Active on IRC: Demelza, Dr_Keith, Fazio, Fredrik, IrfanA, janina, JenStrickland, JonCohn, matatk, NehaJ, PaulG, steveF