W3C

– DRAFT –
Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

02 December 2024

Attendees

Present
Eric_hind, Jan, julierawe, LenB, tiffanyburtin
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
Eric_hind

Meeting minutes

<Lisa> decision making

<Lisa> See: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9N-_3l-d6t0ppZcIIZ98k00x7ZE7h3ayq0OCX9Ycu4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.rhs6n8lpznbz>

<lisa> next item

Lisa: Updates and actions reviewed per item 1 - looking for recommendations or changes to the format of the Action items

Lisa: Structure subgroup will present next week, then close with W3C, Lead Rain

Lisa: Mental health and other proposal draft, currently lead Rashmi

Lisa: Placeholder for internationalization, Lead Jan. Currently in progress.

Lisa: Templates for i18n to start January

Lisa: Findability, supported decision making, in January

Lisa: Github issue review on Thursday with Eric and Lisa

Lisa: Next Issue review, big topic reviews for next calls agenda items.

Lisa: We are collecting or centralizing the editorial feedback we've gotten from i18n work, Rain's studies, etc.

Lisa: Currently working on sprint for issues paper; Julie working on conversation voice, Becca on Safety. Then back to Content Usable

Lisa: Additional overviews, replacing editor notes, etc.

Lisa: Other subgroup tasks, mental health. Jan and David working on items.

<julierawe> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1djYI5jawmb4RjmVEQMZc3D_1xWHVn5rtedcvsqynX1U/edit#slide=id.g31b66c65f85_0_0

julierawe: Doc shared on WCAG 3 updates; vote by Dec 5. Three guidelines added, clear meaning, image alternatives and keyboard focus appearance. Guidelines for subgroup work refocused.

julieawe: New subsections, Clear Meaning (our subgroup) will be part of draft

julierawe: Simplified Written Content, this hasn't started and can be renamed

julierawe: Text Appearance, starts this month, includes contrast size, style

julierawe: Text to speech, new subgroup this month

julierawe: Clear Meaning includes non-literal text, abbreviations, ambiguous numbers, text that leaves out letters or diacritics

Julierawe: Simplified Written text can be renamed; includes avoid double negatives, sentence structure, verb tense, uncommon words, appropriate tone (for now)

julierawe: Topic sentence was moved to layout under structure including section labels, purpose and focusing on a single idea at a time. This can also be moved back if COGA wants.

julierawe: Will check to find source of the voting invite (for Dec 5th for this draft) to ease COGA members ability to vote

<julierawe> https://w3c.github.io/wcag3/guidelines/

Jan: Update on Internationalization, 9AM EST for next meeting

<lisa> next item

Lisa: COGA editorial this Thursday will be on as normal.

<lisa> next item

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc

Lisa: Our actions page (docs) is difficult to synch with github (per most other w3c groups), although github is not easy to use. Reviewed our current Actions document format with groups.

<lisa> things we could do better?

Lisa: Main point of discussion, how can we make this easier to help folks move back and forth from docs to github

tiffanyburtin: Following threads can be difficult in AG (github), our Actions document is a lot of information but is currently workable

Lisa: Table of Contents is always difficult to regenerate and follow (as author and reader).

tiffanyburtin: Willing to review and add suggestions to make it easier to consume.

Lisa: TOC may or may not be a useful tool - making consistent look and feel may help.

Lisa: Looking for any suggestions and improvements. Please connect if you have any thoughts.

<lisa> next item

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9N-_3l-d6t0ppZcIIZ98k00x7ZE7h3ayq0OCX9Ycu4/edit?tab=t.0

Lisa: Supported decision making per linked document. We have had feedback, did some re-ranking - working draft doesn't need to be perfect only to get feedback. Early editors draft for feedback - are we ready to move to that state?

Lisa: Reviewed SDM paper online - indicated that format, spelling not a big deal for now. Reviews some suggestions already added.

Lisa: Is it worth editing and putting in draft of issue papers (editors draft) as a way to gather feedback?

<julierawe> +1 to publishing draft

<Eric_hind> +1

Lisa: Will sent it out to the group for review

<lisa> Any objections?

<Jan> +1

<lisa> next item

julierawe: question on Supported decision making in w3c - there's a shift to effective participation? To be reviewed to understand more of the context.

<Jan> Hi everyone - my apologies, but I have to drop for another call.

Lisa: Issues and suggestions - high level review. Should user needs supercede solutions?

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 238 (Fri Oct 18 20:51:13 2024 UTC).

Diagnostics

Maybe present: julieawe, Lisa

All speakers: Jan, julieawe, julierawe, Lisa, tiffanyburtin

Active on IRC: Eric_hind, Jan, julierawe, LenB, lisa, Lisa, tiffanyburtin