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15:35:53 <Lisa> agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
15:36:22 <Lisa> agenda+ Issues with actions page and overall work flows
15:37:14 <Lisa> agenda+ Supported
15:37:14 <Lisa> decision making
15:37:14 <Lisa> See: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9N-_3l-d6t0ppZcIIZ98k00x7ZE7h3ayq0OCX9Ycu4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.rhs6n8lpznbz>
15:44:30 <Lisa> agenda+ other suggestions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.1k9tsr9rj0cc
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15:50:14 <lisa> Q?
15:50:19 <lisa> agenda?
15:50:42 <lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
15:50:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/02-coga-minutes.html lisa
15:52:18 <lisa> agenda+ meeting this week
15:53:56 <lisa> Q?
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16:01:37 <Eric_hind> present+
16:01:37 <julierawe> present+
16:03:06 <lisa> scribe+ Eric_hind
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16:03:29 <lisa> next item
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16:04:51 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Updates and actions reviewed per item 1 - looking for recommendations or changes to the format of the Action items
16:05:42 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Structure subgroup will present next week, then close with W3C, Lead Rain
16:06:17 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Mental health and other proposal draft, currently lead Rashmi
16:06:41 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Placeholder for internationalization, Lead Jan.  Currently in progress.
16:07:11 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Templates for i18n to start January
16:07:48 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Findability, supported decision making, in January
16:08:36 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Github issue review on Thursday with Eric and Lisa
16:09:36 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Next Issue review, big topic reviews for next calls agenda items.
16:10:05 <lisa> Q?
16:11:37 <Eric_hind> Lisa: We are collecting or centralizing the editorial feedback we've gotten from i18n work, Rain's studies, etc.
16:13:18 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Currently working on sprint for issues paper; Julie working on conversation voice, Becca on Safety.  Then back to Content Usable
16:14:13 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Additional overviews, replacing editor notes, etc.
16:15:42 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Other subgroup tasks, mental health.  Jan and David working on items.
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16:16:31 <julierawe> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1djYI5jawmb4RjmVEQMZc3D_1xWHVn5rtedcvsqynX1U/edit#slide=id.g31b66c65f85_0_0
16:16:46 <lisa> Q?
16:18:12 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Doc shared on WCAG 3 updates; vote by Dec 5.  Three guidelines added, clear meaning, image alternatives and keyboard focus appearance.  Guidelines for subgroup work refocused.
16:18:44 <Eric_hind> julieawe: New subsections, Clear Meaning (our subgroup) will be part of draft
16:19:11 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Simplified Written Content, this hasn't started and can be renamed
16:19:31 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Text Appearance, starts this month, includes contrast size, style
16:19:48 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Text to speech, new subgroup this month
16:20:51 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Clear Meaning includes non-literal text, abbreviations, ambiguous numbers, text that leaves out letters or diacritics
16:21:45 <Eric_hind> Julierawe: Simplified Written text  can be renamed; includes avoid double negatives, sentence structure, verb tense, uncommon words, appropriate tone (for now)
16:22:44 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Topic sentence was moved to layout under structure including section labels, purpose and focusing on a single idea at a time.  This can also be moved back if COGA wants.
16:22:57 <lisa> q+
16:24:56 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Will check to find source of the voting invite (for Dec 5th for this draft) to ease COGA members ability to vote
16:25:27 <julierawe> https://w3c.github.io/wcag3/guidelines/
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16:26:53 <Eric_hind> Jan: Update on Internationalization, 9AM EST for next meeting
16:27:43 <lisa> next item
16:27:50 <Eric_hind> Lisa: COGA editorial this Thursday will be on as normal.
16:27:51 <lisa> ack next
16:27:56 <lisa> next item
16:28:10 <lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
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16:31:13 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Our actions page (docs) is difficult to synch with github (per most other w3c groups), although github is not easy to use.  Reviewed our current Actions document format with groups.
16:32:17 <lisa> things we could do better?
16:32:23 <lisa> q?
16:33:15 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Main point of discussion, how can we make this easier to help folks move back and forth from docs to github
16:34:14 <Eric_hind> tiffanyburtin: Following threads can be difficult in AG (github), our Actions document is a lot of information but is currently workable
16:35:03 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Table of Contents is always difficult to regenerate and follow (as author and reader).
16:35:27 <Eric_hind> tiffanyburtin:  Willing to review and add suggestions to make it easier to consume.
16:36:08 <Eric_hind> Lisa: TOC may or may not be a useful tool - making consistent look and feel may help.
16:36:32 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Looking for any suggestions and improvements.  Please connect if you have any thoughts.
16:36:41 <lisa> q?
16:37:20 <lisa> next item
16:37:37 <lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9N-_3l-d6t0ppZcIIZ98k00x7ZE7h3ayq0OCX9Ycu4/edit?tab=t.0
16:39:37 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Supported decision making per linked document.  We have had feedback, did some re-ranking - working draft doesn't need to be perfect only to get feedback.  Early editors draft for feedback - are we ready to move to that state?
16:46:08 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Reviewed SDM paper online - indicated that format, spelling not a big deal for now. Reviews some suggestions already added.
16:48:41 <lisa> q?
16:49:27 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Is it worth editing and putting in draft of issue papers (editors draft) as a way to gather feedback?
16:49:30 <julierawe> +1 to publishing draft
16:49:35 <Eric_hind> +1
16:50:12 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Will sent it out to the group for review
16:50:39 <lisa> Any objections?
16:50:52 <Jan> +1
16:51:28 <julierawe> q+
16:51:37 <lisa> ack next
16:52:56 <lisa> next item
16:55:21 <Eric_hind> julierawe: question on Supported decision making in w3c - there's a shift to effective participation?  To be reviewed to understand more of the context.
16:55:42 <Jan> Hi everyone - my apologies, but I have to drop for another call.
16:58:41 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Issues and suggestions - high level review.  Should user needs supercede solutions?
16:59:00 <lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:59:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/02-coga-minutes.html lisa
16:59:07 <lisa> q?
16:59:34 <lisa> thank you Eric
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