W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2

07 November 2024

Attendees

Present
Ege_Korkan, Jan_Romann, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato, Mahda_Noura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
Ege
Scribe
EgeKorkan, mjk

Meeting minutes

Minutes

<kaz> Oct-31

Ege: anything to change?
… minutes are approved

use case discussion

<kaz> PR 2053 - User Stories in Work Item Descriptions

Discussion by McCool and Ege

<kaz> changes

Ege: the submitter writes the user story
… we decided to keep who, what, and why as separate line items in the form
… We probably have enough use cases to justify the planned work
… we can link features to use cases and stories

McCool: we could use a table to associate features with use cases
… we could maintain links in one direction and use tables for the reverse direction

Ege: we need to also capture who is involved, sometimes called "stakeholders"
… 4 categories of stakeholder
… submitter, spec writer, implementer, and impacted

McCool: there are other stakeholders like device installer
… these categories are new definitions for roles
… we need to consolidate the definitions in the UCR document
… the different documents we publish have their own stakeholder definitions

Kaz: do we want to get new use cases from the stakeholders? Who are the priority stakeholders?
… industry liaison is a priority

McCool: we can sort by category for priority as a separate step from identifying stakeholders

Kaz: we don't need a lot of details

Ege: we need this for the work items we have

McCool: we need to identify negative vs. positive impacts

Ege: can we requite the user stories in who, what, why format?

McCool: it seems clear enough

McCool: each are a line item

<cris> +1

<EgeKorkan> proposal: User Stories should be written as a set of 3 items, the total being a single sentence if items were put together

McCool: written as if it is part of a sentence

McCool: going to create a draft PR with examples

<cris> +1

McCool: this is mostly process documentation rather than spec content

Mahda: it seems easier to write a user story than who, what, why and may not be equivalent

McCool: the intention is not to have different meanings

Ege: don't understand the issue

Mahda: would rather write sentences than separate expressions

McCool: you can write the sentence and then pull out the expressions

RESOLUTION: User Stories should be written as a set of 3 items, the total being a single sentence if items were put together

Ege: no objections to the proposal

Ege: does anyone object to the stakeholder definitions?

<EgeKorkan> proposal: We should identify process stakeholder for each user story submission. See PR 2053 for the concrete definitions

RESOLUTION: We should identify process stakeholder for each user story submission. See PR 2053 for the concrete definitions

Ege: no objections, approved

<kaz> [ submitter, spec writer, implementation volunteer, impacted people ]

Example review

Ege: (walks through the Reusable Connection example)

Ege: there should be links from the form to the defined use cases

McCool: there can be more than one use case
… we should re-use the categories we have and avoid creating new ones

Ege: we may not always get a comprehensive writeup with a submission

Ege: the example contains everything that might be needed in a submission
… are there any comments on the PR #2053?
… any opinions?

Ege: OK, we will merge the PR
… what is the next step?

McCool: we need to decide locations for the documents and linking, and the table we discussed earlier
… will create a PR and send the link

Kaz: let's merge this PR and handle the UCR note separately

McCool: I'll create a PR and we can review in the Use Case context

Kaz: we need to clarify what will be done in the TD call and what is in the scope of the UC TF

McCool: the specific user stories are TD TF scope

Ege: we would create tracking for the TD issues

McCool: yes, you can track them and submit from the TD TF
… we generally won't accept input from outside the WoT group

Kaz: we need to think about document structure

McCool: there is a PR to add new sections and categories

McCool: the scope is use case categories and requirements

Kaz: we don't need to include the current document in the new document, but can link to it. the detailed discussion should be organized during the UC call.

Ege: we are almost at the hour, we can continue the discussion in the UC TF
… any other business?
… adjourned

Summary of resolutions

  1. User Stories should be written as a set of 3 items, the total being a single sentence if items were put together
  2. We should identify process stakeholder for each user story submission. See PR 2053 for the concrete definitions
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