Meeting minutes
Logistics
Kaz: would suggest Mizushima-san and McCool have coordination discussion before the official Use Cases call
McCool: to be done in the future
Agenda review
Mizushima: (goes through the agenda)
Kaz: TPAC discussion to be done earlier given it would be held next week
Mizushima: if any specific topics
Kaz: need to finalize the agenda items about UC during TPAC
McCool: we can talk about requirements after TPAC
Minutes
Mizushima: (goes through the minutes)
approved
TPAC planning
Mizushima: starts at 14:10?
McCool: yeah, 10-min opening first then Use Cases
… Use Cases to be discussed first
… then refactoring which would impact all the specs
… think that's a right order
… note that registry discussion to be handled during the TD session
… btw, "where do requirements go" to be discused during the UC/Req session
… my slides have 5 pages, 2 mins for each
… then discussion
… we should have some slides prepared
… I've prepared slides for my part on requirements process
… technical vs functional
… separation of what and why
… would invite comments for that discussion
Ege: may agree, but would see examples
McCool: will describe that using slides
… (describes some example about security)
… use cases will be motivation
Ege: agree
McCool: I'm ready, I think
… if you want, you can review my slides on GitHub
… btw, Mizushima-san, have you generated your slides yet?
Mizushima: not yet...
… some slides available, though
McCool: 3 slides on basics and demo would suffice
Mizushima: demo by Ege
… Ege, could you please generate some material for the demo?
Ege: ok
Kaz: ok for Ege to show the current work by the TD TF?
Mizushima: would like to Ege to present the current trial by the TD TF
McCool: let's allocate 5 mins for that purpose
… Ege can create one slide
Ege: ok
McCool: other than that, the current slides look fine
… please upload them on GitHub
… including screenshots would be nice
Kaz: Ege, you can generate one pager slide separately
McCool: anyway, please upload your slides, Mizushima-san
Schedule
McCool: if you go down...
… Sep 2024 was the original target for UCR Note publication
… but would not be feasible any more
… in September, we'll have TPAC and then vacation
… so should say October instead
… then
… another goal to update the requirements section of the UCR doc by April next year
… by the end of October, we should be able to finalize the process
… (start to share the screen to edit the schedule)
… (applying the proposed changes)
… would like to propose...
… October, 2024 for UCR process defined
… March, 2025 for updated UCR Note publication
… need to define requirements for our spec work
Kaz: need clarification for "process defined in Oct"
… within the UCR Note?
McCool: focus on capturing use cases
… if necessary, some use cases to describe that
Kaz: so concentrate on the description about the process
… and we don't need to capture actual use cases at the moment. right?
McCool: right
Kaz: ok
McCool: we have to wrap all the discussion quickly for that purpose
… then really focus on requirements next
… can/need to handle things in parallel
… any objections for those two changes?
(none)
McCool: PR has been created, and will be merged during the main call
Internal trial of new UC template
Ege: (shares his screen to describe that)
TD Issue 2039 - Using the New Use Case Template and Gathering Experience
Ege: there are several proposed UCs already
… put the UC template on the TD Issue 2039 as MD
… so that people can copy the template easily
Ege: one from Daniel
… about property returning a set of values
… the description is very technical
McCool: this is a feature request describing why we need some specific feature
Ege: Daniel is assuming, e.g., Philips Hue
McCool: anyway, I need to give comments to this
… there are three examples on my slides too
Ege: if I do a demo based on this TD Issue, should it be done before your presentation?
McCool: before my requirements slides
… but we need to distinguish feature requests from requirements
<EgeKorkan> w3c/
Ege: have different example about history data also
… can talk about the details during the TD slot
McCool: can mention the three examples and mention the detailed to be handled during the TD slot
… let me quickly share my slide
Kaz: agree the details on Issue 2039 to be done during the TD slot and just mention there is some trial work by TD TF during the UC session
<McCool> https://
McCool: (shows his slides)
… three examples here
… consumer of TDs, system owner, and produce of TDs
… can add more clarification to them too
Kaz: regarding TD issue 2039
… agree the McCool that feature requests to be handled separately from requirements
… then would be better to create separate MDs one by one so that we can give comments to each proposed trial UC
… will propose that during the TD call again
McCool: ok
… anyway, let's go for the slides including the examples
Next meeting
McCool: in 3 weeks due to TPAC and recap
[adjourned]