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I18N ⇔ CSS

20 August 2024

Attendees

Present
atsushi, fantasai, florian, xfq
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
xfq

Meeting minutes

Agenda

Action Items

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Acss

#107

<gb> Action 107 write an issue about quote auto behavior for non-q elements (on frivoal) due 2024-06-25

close #107

<gb> Closed issue #107

#89

<gb> Action 89 update i18n specs to support dark mode (on xfq) due 2024-04-18

w3c/csswg-drafts#10249

<gb> Issue 10249 [mediaqueries] Effect of on the (prefers-color-scheme) MQ (by tabatkins) [mediaqueries-4] [Agenda+]

xfq: CSS #10249 blocks dark mode for i18n specs

<gb> Issue 10249 not found

florian: I thought we had resolved on this, but apparently not

speced/respec#4687 (comment)

<gb> Issue 4687 How to deal with custom styles in dark mode? (by xfq) [bug]

florian: that really is a respec issue
… because what they want to do is possible
… it's just more verbose than what they would like
… if the way CSS behave changes
… they can achieve the same thing with less code
… but they can already do it
… maybe a change in CSS will make the life easier for developers
… maybe it won't

florian: I'm going to push back a little bit here
… CSSWG members can help if they have time but I don't think the CSSWG should be used as a support forum for writing or styling websites
… that's not what the CSSWG is for
… this is really a web dev question, not a spec question
… I'll try and have a look if I have time, but usually I don't have time, so I can't promise

w3c/i18n-actions#16

<gb> Action 16 Keep track of line-breaking in Korean for i18n-discuss#11 (on aphillips) due 1 Jan 2024

w3c/i18n-actions#11

<gb> Action 11 Triage all css properties to determine which are logical, physical, or na by default (on frivoal) due 18 Jul 2023

Info Share and Progress Reports

xfq: webkit is implementing text-autospace

WebKit/WebKit#32261

<gb> Pull Request 32261 text-autospace: implement ideograph-alpha for complex path within an text run (by vitorroriz) [Text]

ACTION: florian and fantasai to sort out the various categories of things that get autospaced with koji

<gb> Created action #116

Review on-going issues

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AAgenda%2BI18N%2BCSS

florian: we can skip some of it

w3c/csswg-drafts#4154

<gb> Issue 4154 Consider Canonicalization of language tags in :lang() selector maching (by frivoal) [selectors-4] [i18n-tracker] [Needs Review of Proposed Text] [selectors-5] [Agenda+ i18n]

florian: a while back, I was considering whether it would be convenient for authors whether :lang() selector would automatically do normalization
… like there are multiple language tags taht are supposed to be equivalent
… like yue, zh-yue, zh-HK
… they mean the same thing
… but they are distinct tokens
… so they don't get treated the same
… this PR got accidentlly merged, so I think we're gonna have to look at it sooner rather than later

xfq: I'll have a look

xfq: @@1

[Discussions about emphasis marks]

Summary of action items

  1. florian and fantasai to sort out the various categories of things that get autospaced with koji
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