14:02:41 RRSAgent has joined #i18n 14:02:45 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/08/20-i18n-irc 14:03:14 Meeting: I18N ⇔ CSS 14:03:25 present+ 14:03:34 present+ florian, xfq, atsushi, fantasai 14:03:46 rrsagent, make log public 14:03:47 rrsagent, make minutes 14:03:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/20-i18n-minutes.html xfq 14:05:18 agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/a1f2b55d-d2c7-40a1-a3e7-4c5eb70aa55e/20240820T070000/ 14:05:19 clear agenda 14:05:19 agenda+ Agenda 14:05:19 agenda+ Action Items 14:05:19 agenda+ Info Share and Progress Reports 14:05:19 agenda+ Review on-going issues 14:05:29 zakim, take up item 1 14:05:29 agendum 1 -- Agenda -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:06:04 zakim, close this item 14:06:04 agendum 1 closed 14:06:04 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:06:04 2. Action Items [from agendabot] 14:06:06 zakim, take up item 2 14:06:06 agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:06:17 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Acss 14:06:31 #107 14:06:31 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/107 -> Action 107 write an issue about quote auto behavior for non-q elements (on frivoal) due 2024-06-25 14:07:18 close #107 14:07:19 Closed -> issue #107 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/107 14:07:30 #89 14:07:31 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89 -> Action 89 update i18n specs to support dark mode (on xfq) due 2024-04-18 14:07:51 scribe+ 14:08:12 https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10249 14:08:13 https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10249 -> Issue 10249 [mediaqueries] Effect of on the (prefers-color-scheme) MQ (by tabatkins) [mediaqueries-4] [Agenda+] 14:08:36 xfq: CSS #10249 blocks dark mode for i18n specs 14:08:36 Issue 10249 not found 14:09:27 florian: I thought we had resolved on this, but apparently not 14:10:13 https://github.com/speced/respec/issues/4687#issuecomment-2074740322 14:10:13 https://github.com/speced/respec/issues/4687 -> Issue 4687 How to deal with custom styles in dark mode? (by xfq) [bug] 14:11:19 florian: that really is a respec issue 14:11:27 ... because what they want to do is possible 14:11:36 ... it's just more verbose than what they would like 14:11:46 ... if the way CSS behave changes 14:11:54 ... they can achieve the same thing with less code 14:11:58 ... but they can already do it 14:12:18 ... maybe a change in CSS will make the life easier for developers 14:12:18 ... maybe it won't 14:13:55 florian: I'm going to push back a little bit here 14:14:26 ... CSSWG members can help if they have time but I don't think the CSSWG should be used as a support forum for writing websites 14:14:35 ... that's not what the CSSWG is for 14:14:47 s/for writing websites/for writing or styling websites 14:14:47 ... this is really a web dev question, not a spec question 14:15:04 ... I'll try and have a look if I have time, but usually I don't have time, so I can't promise 14:15:55 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/16 14:15:56 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/16 -> Action 16 Keep track of line-breaking in Korean for i18n-discuss#11 (on aphillips) due 1 Jan 2024 14:16:18 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/11 14:16:19 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/11 -> Action 11 Triage all css properties to determine which are logical, physical, or na by default (on frivoal) due 18 Jul 2023 14:17:06 zakim, agenda? 14:17:06 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda: 14:17:07 2. Action Items [from agendabot] 14:17:07 3. Info Share and Progress Reports [from agendabot] 14:17:07 4. Review on-going issues [from agendabot] 14:17:12 zakim, close this item 14:17:12 agendum 2 closed 14:17:13 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:17:13 3. Info Share and Progress Reports [from agendabot] 14:17:16 zakim, take up item 3 14:17:16 agendum 3 -- Info Share and Progress Reports -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:18:19 xfq: webkit is implementing text-autospace 14:19:25 https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/pull/32261 14:19:25 https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/pull/32261 -> Pull Request 32261 text-autospace: implement ideograph-alpha for complex path within an text run (by vitorroriz) [Text] 14:19:58 action: florian and fantasai to sort out the various categories of things that get autospaced with koji 14:20:05 Created -> action #116 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/116 14:20:55 agenda? 14:21:07 zakim, close this item 14:21:07 agendum 3 closed 14:21:07 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 14:21:07 4. Review on-going issues [from agendabot] 14:21:10 zakim, take up item 4 14:21:10 agendum 4 -- Review on-going issues -- taken up [from agendabot] 14:21:37 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AAgenda%2BI18N%2BCSS 14:21:47 florian: we can skip some of it 14:21:57 https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4154 14:21:57 https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4154 -> Issue 4154 Consider Canonicalization of language tags in :lang() selector maching (by frivoal) [selectors-4] [i18n-tracker] [Needs Review of Proposed Text] [selectors-5] [Agenda+ i18n] 14:22:45 florian: a while back, I was considering whether it would be convenient for authors whether :lang() selector would automatically do normalization 14:23:00 ... like there are multiple language tags taht are supposed to be equivalent 14:23:42 ... like yue, zh-yue, zh-HK 14:23:48 ... they mean the same thing 14:23:54 ... but they are distinct tokens 14:24:05 ... so they don't get treated the same 14:25:41 ... this PR got accidentlly merged, so I think we're gonna have to look at it sooner rather than later 14:26:38 xfq: I'll have a look 14:29:33 xfq: @@1 14:31:37 [Discussions about emphasis marks] 14:33:35 rrsagent, make minutes 14:33:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/20-i18n-minutes.html xfq