W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Accessibility Community Group

17 07 2024

Attendees

Present
JMcSorley, julierawe, julierawe1, KatyB, Milena, Philipp
Regrets
-
Chair
Jan_McSorley
Scribe
julie

Meeting minutes

<JMcSorley> Assign subsections of the WCAG 3.0 outcomes spreadsheet, based on guidance from the COGA Internationalization Subgroup recommendations (e.g. Text and Wording; Image and Media Alternatives, Layout, User Control, Help and Feedback): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRUWjVZB_0BTQQgLm7Pm_DOMLBtpL7RcsrVwQ3ynBIA/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Review meeting minutes from June 19, 2024 and July 3, 2024: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TeGEsD1JVf7L9bFW3_e7YTnqtmUnpTldJhD6N16ElAU/edit?usp=sharing

Edit the Internationalization Accessibility Community Group draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SgfzQMEd0MYydz6WoPBbuxx5CewjiUc5bsuu592uurI/edit?usp=sharing

<julierawe> (sorry, irc kicked me out--i'm back!)

<julierawe> JMcSorley We want to finish our edits. How much of our meeting time do we want to use for this?

<julierawe> Has everyone looked at the document?

<julierawe> KatyB I want to set aside some time to go through it

<julierawe> Jan: Let's set a date for everyone to finish going through and making comments or using "Suggesting" mode

<julierawe> Philipp I need to look over

<julierawe> julierawe Suggestion on how to tweak the start of the bullets in the "goals" section to emphasize the community group is supporting these efforts rather than responsible for developing, etc

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu We could give ourselves a deadline to review the document by July 29th

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu And then I can go in and accept minor changes and we can discuss bigger changes on July 31st

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu In the current state that it's in, I don't feel comfortable sending to COGA, AG and Internationalization. I'm concerned people will be overwhelmed by all the comments and edits.

<julierawe> Philipp I suggest making a clean version.

<julierawe> julierawe +1

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu We'll spend a good chunk of time on the 31st going over the doc in detail

Review the recruiting email draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14urDbLrdkARcfQhDRUItUUYGm23bY5FAWnKx4xjpAM4/edit?usp=sharing

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu This is a cleaned-up version of the email draft

<julierawe> julierawe 3 suggestions: Make 1st line clearer that this is joint effort of 3 groups. Suggest subject line. Add sentence or two about time commitment, meeting schedule, asynchronous participation, etc

<julierawe> Philipp We could say the goals are "relevant and easy to understand"

<julierawe> Philipp Would be good to include as a target to make the guidance easy to understand

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu I agree

<julierawe> julierawe I suggest changing "understandable" to "easy to understand"

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu Streamlined 2nd paragraph

<julierawe> Philipp Try to avoid "asynchronously"

<julierawe> julierawe Can we say "on your own time (asynchronously)"

<julierawe> julierawe Suggest adding specific steps on how to join

<julierawe> KatyB The text on that page will be replaced by what we're working on

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu No, the charter document will not replace the summary on the sign-up page

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu We can recommend replacing the text, but we'd need to get someone at W3C to do that

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu I will ask Lisa about it

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu I will clean up the rest

Review Lisa’s spreadsheet of W3C-related groups that should be tied into our group communications: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BDxk7UlsvGedCivhvIgyfhjGkvqauKS1uHbEPI0ftgo/edit?usp=sharing

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu I skipped agenda item 3 — human error

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu Makoto mentioned there were several different language or culture specific groups that already exist in W3C

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu It's a brainstorm right now. I wanted to make you aware of it.

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu At some point we will add additional groups. But if you think of any in the interim, you can add to this spreadsheet.

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu We're not ready yet to start reaching out to other groups

<JMcSorleyu> WCAG 3.0 Outcomes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRUWjVZB_0BTQQgLm7Pm_DOMLBtpL7RcsrVwQ3ynBIA/edit?usp=sharing

Assign subsections of the WCAG 3.0 outcomes spreadsheet, based on guidance from the COGA Internationalization Subgroup recommendations (e.g. Text and Wording; Image and Media Alternatives, Layout, User Control, Help and Feedback)

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu Julie is the liaison between COGA and WCAG

<julierawe> CAG 3.0 Outcomes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRUWjVZB_0BTQQgLm7Pm_DOMLBtpL7RcsrVwQ3ynBIA/edit?usp=sharing

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu There is a process document on how to provide feedback

<Philipp> process doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yl2YMuqhwmWlOi8XC3EcFCkDTWda01zMo8GhnJrkvTg/edit#heading=h.dfiw52xjurme

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu This process doc explains how to create your tab

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu The first one they want us to look at is Text and Wording

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu Think about whether there are internationalization concerns

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu Go through the Text and Wording section first and provide your feedback

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu If you don't understand this short description, that is good feedback as well

<julierawe> Philipp It's about checking this short description?

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu Yes

<julierawe> julierawe Row 148 about text style seems like a good example of something that needs internationalization review

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu Feedback can be very short

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu We wanted the ability to provide this feedback asynchronously

<julierawe> JMcSorleyu This is an example of creating a process for doing work on your own time

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