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12:54:01 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), JMcSorley
12:54:03 <JMcSorley> chair: Jan_McSorley
12:54:25 <JMcSorley> Meeting: Internationalization Accessibility Community Group
12:54:44 <JMcSorley> date: 17 07 2024
12:54:56 <JMcSorley> zakim, clear agenda
12:54:56 <Zakim> agenda cleared
12:55:53 <JMcSorley> Agenda+ Review meeting minutes from June 19, 2024 and July 3, 2024: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TeGEsD1JVf7L9bFW3_e7YTnqtmUnpTldJhD6N16ElAU/edit?usp=sharing
12:56:44 <JMcSorley> Agenda+ Edit the Internationalization Accessibility Community Group draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SgfzQMEd0MYydz6WoPBbuxx5CewjiUc5bsuu592uurI/edit?usp=sharing
12:57:28 <JMcSorley> Assign subsections of the WCAG 3.0 outcomes spreadsheet, based on guidance from the COGA Internationalization Subgroup recommendations (e.g. Text and Wording; Image and Media Alternatives, Layout, User Control, Help and Feedback): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRUWjVZB_0BTQQgLm7Pm_DOMLBtpL7RcsrVwQ3ynBIA/edit?gid=0#gid=0
12:58:16 <JMcSorley> Agenda+ Review the recruiting email draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14urDbLrdkARcfQhDRUItUUYGm23bY5FAWnKx4xjpAM4/edit?usp=sharing
12:59:22 <JMcSorley> Agenda+ Review Lisa’s spreadsheet of W3C-related groups that should be tied into our group communications: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BDxk7UlsvGedCivhvIgyfhjGkvqauKS1uHbEPI0ftgo/edit?usp=sharing
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13:03:48 <JMcSorley> zakim, next item
13:03:48 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Review meeting minutes from June 19, 2024 and July 3, 2024: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TeGEsD1JVf7L9bFW3_e7YTnqtmUnpTldJhD6N16ElAU/edit?usp=sharing -- taken
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13:04:12 <Philipp> present+
13:05:10 <KatyB> present+
13:05:26 <JMcSorley> present+
13:05:55 <JMcSorley> present+ Milena
13:06:17 <JMcSorley> q+
13:06:27 <JMcSorley> q-
13:09:52 <JMcSorley> zakim, next item
13:09:52 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Edit the Internationalization Accessibility Community Group draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SgfzQMEd0MYydz6WoPBbuxx5CewjiUc5bsuu592uurI/edit?usp=sharing --
13:09:55 <Zakim> ... taken up [from JMcSorley]
13:10:01 <JMcSorley> scribe+ julie
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13:11:19 <julierawe> (sorry, irc kicked me out--i'm back!)
13:13:14 <julierawe> JMcSorley We want to finish our edits. How much of our meeting time do we want to use for this?
13:13:52 <julierawe> Has everyone looked at the document?
13:14:06 <julierawe> KatyB I want to set aside some time to go through it
13:14:39 <julierawe> q+
13:15:31 <julierawe> Jan: Let's set a date for everyone to finish going through and making comments or using "Suggesting" mode
13:16:31 <julierawe> Philipp I need to look over
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13:18:57 <julierawe> julierawe Suggestion on how to tweak the start of the bullets in the "goals" section to emphasize the community group is supporting these efforts rather than responsible for developing, etc
13:19:18 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu We could give ourselves a deadline to review the document by July 29th
13:19:40 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu And then I can go in and accept minor changes and we can discuss bigger changes on July 31st
13:20:22 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu In the current state that it's in, I don't feel comfortable sending to COGA, AG and Internationalization. I'm concerned people will be overwhelmed by all the comments and edits.
13:20:33 <julierawe> Philipp I suggest making a clean version.
13:20:49 <julierawe> julierawe +1
13:21:08 <JMcSorleyu> q?
13:21:12 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu We'll spend a good chunk of time on the 31st going over the doc in detail
13:21:24 <julierawe> q-
13:21:31 <JMcSorleyu> zakim, next item
13:21:31 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review the recruiting email draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14urDbLrdkARcfQhDRUItUUYGm23bY5FAWnKx4xjpAM4/edit?usp=sharing -- taken up [from JMcSorley]
13:21:59 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu This is a cleaned-up version of the email draft
13:27:19 <julierawe> julierawe 3 suggestions: Make 1st line clearer that this is joint effort of 3 groups. Suggest subject line. Add sentence or two about time commitment, meeting schedule, asynchronous participation, etc
13:32:27 <julierawe> Philipp We could say the goals are "relevant and easy to understand"
13:32:56 <julierawe> Philipp Would be good to include as a target to make the guidance easy to understand
13:33:02 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu I agree
13:34:19 <julierawe> julierawe I suggest changing "understandable" to "easy to understand"
13:36:37 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu Streamlined 2nd paragraph
13:38:57 <julierawe> Philipp Try to avoid "asynchronously"
13:39:35 <julierawe> julierawe Can we say "on your own time (asynchronously)"
13:42:24 <julierawe> julierawe Suggest adding specific steps on how to join
13:42:55 <julierawe> KatyB The text on that page will be replaced by what we're working on
13:44:12 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu No, the charter document will not replace the summary on the sign-up page
13:44:34 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu We can recommend replacing the text, but we'd need to get someone at W3C to do that
13:44:41 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu I will ask Lisa about it
13:45:52 <JMcSorleyu> q?
13:45:52 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu I will clean up the rest
13:46:00 <JMcSorleyu> zakim, next item
13:46:00 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Review Lisa’s spreadsheet of W3C-related groups that should be tied into our group communications:
13:46:02 <Zakim> ... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BDxk7UlsvGedCivhvIgyfhjGkvqauKS1uHbEPI0ftgo/edit?usp=sharing -- taken up [from JMcSorley]
13:47:13 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu I skipped agenda item 3 — human error
13:47:37 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu Makoto mentioned there were several different language or culture specific groups that already exist in W3C
13:47:49 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu It's a brainstorm right now. I wanted to make you aware of it.
13:48:22 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu At some point we will add additional groups. But if you think of any in the interim, you can add to this spreadsheet.
13:48:35 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu We're not ready yet to start reaching out to other groups
13:48:44 <JMcSorleyu> zakim, next item
13:48:44 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, JMcSorleyu
13:49:21 <JMcSorleyu> WCAG 3.0 Outcomes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRUWjVZB_0BTQQgLm7Pm_DOMLBtpL7RcsrVwQ3ynBIA/edit?usp=sharing
13:49:36 <julierawe> agenda+ Assign subsections of the WCAG 3.0 outcomes spreadsheet, based on guidance from the COGA Internationalization Subgroup recommendations (e.g. Text and Wording; Image and Media Alternatives, Layout, User Control, Help and Feedback)
13:49:43 <julierawe> zakim, next item
13:49:43 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Assign subsections of the WCAG 3.0 outcomes spreadsheet, based on guidance from the COGA Internationalization Subgroup recommendations (e.g. Text and Wording; Image
13:49:46 <Zakim> ... and Media Alternatives, Layout, User Control, Help and Feedback) -- taken up [from julierawe]
13:50:07 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu Julie is the liaison between COGA and WCAG
13:50:15 <julierawe> CAG 3.0 Outcomes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRUWjVZB_0BTQQgLm7Pm_DOMLBtpL7RcsrVwQ3ynBIA/edit?usp=sharing
13:50:34 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu There is a process document on how to provide feedback
13:50:59 <Philipp> process doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yl2YMuqhwmWlOi8XC3EcFCkDTWda01zMo8GhnJrkvTg/edit#heading=h.dfiw52xjurme
13:51:32 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu This process doc explains how to create your tab
13:51:50 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu The first one they want us to look at is Text and Wording
13:53:16 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu Think about whether there are internationalization concerns
13:53:30 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu Go through the Text and Wording section first and provide your feedback
13:54:07 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu If you don't understand this short description, that is good feedback as well
13:54:20 <julierawe> Philipp It's about checking this short description?
13:54:22 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu Yes
13:54:36 <julierawe> q+
13:57:28 <julierawe> julierawe Row 148 about text style seems like a good example of something that needs internationalization review
13:57:41 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu Feedback can be very short
13:57:51 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu We wanted the ability to provide this feedback asynchronously
13:58:12 <julierawe> JMcSorleyu This is an example of creating a process for doing work on your own time
14:01:45 <JMcSorleyu> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:01:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-global-inclusion-minutes.html JMcSorleyu
14:01:56 <JMcSorleyu> zakim, end meeting
14:01:56 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been julierawe, Philipp, KatyB, JMcSorley, Milena
14:01:58 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:02:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/17-global-inclusion-minutes.html Zakim
14:02:05 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, JMcSorleyu; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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14:02:58 <JMcSorleyu> rrsagent, bye
14:02:58 <RRSAgent> I see no action items