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– DRAFT –
RQTF meeting.

03 April 2024

Attendees

Present
DavidSwallow, janina, jasonjgw, John_Paton, scott_h
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
jasonjgw, scott_h

Meeting minutes

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Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.

jason: some questions

first issue - made changes following meeting to editors draft

- section 1.4: impications of cognitive issues with collaborative envrionments, barriers to wide variety of AT users

Changes supported by Scott and Janina

- seciton 6.3

amendment to note clarifying change histories

made change to explain what is repsonsibility fo collaboration tool, and wht is responsibility of the user of the tool

referncing collaborative process in section 1.5

janina: good to acknowlede that humans are part of solution,

jason: if noticed other places fo rthis, shoudl add

- agreed to dicuss seciotn 9: requirements but not specific / catch-all seciton of dcument

too brad, except for example of keyboard conventions and compatibility with AT

i.e. revision tracking, comments already covered elsewhere

have recongised issue

Agreed that there were concerns on how to cover issues while at the same time be practical/useful

janina: maybe use practicable phrase?

jason: web applicaitons don't always follow desktop/windowing system, or app conventions that ocme with OS

issue with whether web apps should be more desktop-like or web-like when running in web browser

also if happen t have a good perfence system for UI, some oculd be handled

but dn't have ag ood mechanism on web but can be done on per-app basis

janina: articles coudl be referenced on to what articles address web app v desktop app interface

scott: I'm in a position to look at this

jason: great

janina: yes, want to document that there's reasoned arguments on both side, issues and barriers

jason: web devleoper dones't know what's familiar so they make choices

scott: will pull togethr a lit review

jason: could be standalone info in Seciton 9

then examples coudl be separate point

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jason: aside from intro, the rest of feedback is Seciton 9

janina: can join COGA call to look at editoral tweaks

happywit most edits, careful with WCAG gap reference wording

to keep neutral,

everyithng else Secitgon 9

as dicusse don design patterns web v desktlop app design

jasON; and supporting AT that support collaborative operaitons - revision, comment, etc

basically if COGA are happy wiht seciton 108, then that's a good place and now have steps on Seciton 9

jason: put nto place suggestions infomally agred,

then AT support as second point

and looking for exmaples of short series of process, windows tabs etc as applies to collaborative featuers

jason; can we get edits in before COGA call on Monday,

jason: will endeavour to update today

Draft note on Ethical Principles for Web Machine Learning.

janina: were in the early design phase of this doucment

now fnished its process, APA asked to sign off

would want RQTF to review first

scott: gropu review?

janina: let's all ready and dicuss next week on any issues

Immersive captions.

raja: final documentation is getting done, ready in one week

will meet with them today

janina: if you sent email to RQTF list and its ready to move to NOte track, we can tehn read it and review

after that it goes to APA wide review

jason: yes, as soon as the group is ready we'll review

raja: great. ALso hopiong ot get a final answer today, and afer that will email all

Miscellaneous updates and topics.

jason: interesting article publisehd by Linux weekly news

new dectralised tool - a bit like GitHub / GitLab, web interface that runs locally

so different collaborative tool

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