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Review of in-progress techniques documents.

AvneeshSingh: we had a lot of merges in the last week

George: I worked in the principles document, based on Madeleine comments

<gautierchomel> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Minute_Taking_Tips

George: do I have to add unkown for all principles?

gpellegrino: no

AvneeshSingh: if there is no metadata for hazards I think it is better to hide the principle

George: if there is the information it will be explicit

Proposal for ONIX technique for Charts, diagrams, and formulas

<AvneeshSingh> w3c/publ-a11y#257

Chris_ED: the proposal we check if there are charts or diagrams in the publication

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Chris_ED: I also check if there are mathematics formulas and chemeitry formulas
… if some of these are present I check if there are alternatives (extended or data)
… if formulas are present I checked if they are in accessible formats

gpellegrino: we have the last instruction for telling when there is a formulas or chart or chem, but not the accessible way to express it
… is it ok for you?

Madeleine: yes, I think it is ok to have all them together at the end

Chris_ED: I think it is the most used way in ONIX

gpellegrino: the statements we check if there there are formulas and if they are accessible
… maybe there is no need to double check if there are formulas in the epub

Chris_ED: in onix we have a way to say that chem can be expressed both in chemml and mathml
… we are developing a validator for checking that if you say that you have accessible formulas, you also have to say that you have formulas in epub

Madeleine: yes, maybe we may have some records saying that there are accessible formulas, without saying that there are formulas at all
… so maybe as Chris suggested we may change the first four instructions to check only for presence of accessibility metadata

AvneeshSingh: I would preferred the simplified version

George: I'm afraid that publishers think they have to do extra work for accessible math (apart from MathML)

Chris_ED: "accessible math" is displayed only if we have mathml or latex

AvneeshSingh: I'm aware of ChemML... never seen it

Chris_ED: Yes, we have it, but not used
… a lot by publishers

gpellegrino: I'll update the PR

Any other business.

ChrisOliverOttawa: It started as an initiative last summer
… the idea is to have the whole library community onboard
… libraries would like to leverage on the work done in the W3C
… in the libraries we have to manage born accessible, remediated, printed books
… so we had the idea to start a network within IFLA
… it should be approved in april
… there is already a lot of interest, with over 60 people
… a lot of them have IFLA affiliations, but 30% of them are from the disabilities associations
… Gregorio joined the network
… we're creating working groups, there will be a crosswalk working group
… 4 working groups: general principles, mapping and crosswalk groups (to reuse metadata), best practices and display, vocabulary
… for sure the work done within W3C (mapping, display guidelines) would be a starting point for our work

AvneeshSingh: I think that having a sync between our principles document and the IFLA one is important

gpellegrino: I think the scope of the two documents are sligthly different

ChrisOliverOttawa: right, it's more high level, also political, but for sure having a sync is important

ChrisOliverOttawa: we have representative from different stakeholders, normally when we publish document than it is reviewed by people from all over the world

who is interested can join the BaseCamp group

AvneeshSingh: you have done a great work with the MARC crosswalk. Will you start from that?

ChrisOliverOttawa: we'll use that as a starting point, we'll also have people form UNIMARC

Bill_Kasdorf1: at the end of your work, will this implementation be on the side of libraries or of vendors?

ChrisOliverOttawa: the work should push this idea: if the accessibility metadata is stored, then they should be displayed

we have two use cases: metadata from publishers and local metadata for remediated files

Bill_Kasdorf1: I'm going to work on an NISO WG for defining metadata about remediation
… we'll use what is already available, so not to reinvent the wheel

AvneeshSingh: the important thing is to be insync