APA Weekly Teleconference

13 Mar 2024


Fazio, IrfanA, janina, matatk, Nehaj, PaulG
Fredrik_Fischer, Gottfried_Zimmerman, Keith_Newton, Niklas_Egger, Rita_Shewbridge

Meeting minutes

Agenda Review & Announcements

AT Driver https://w3c.github.io/at-driver/

matatk: received feedback from one vendor only, need to collect more information

<Fazio> ATIA?

<Fazio> David Dikter

<Fazio> AAATE?

matatk: two vendors in discussion

New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22

<Roy> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2024/btt-wg.html

Roy: no update as of yet

<Roy> w3c/strategy#438

janina: we should give only a week time

matatk: no concrete answer from nvda

matatk: only internationalization is completed

matatk: very strict one week deadline

janina: waiting for responses from community

HR A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

Roy: nothing new in this week but some are still pending

<matatk> gb, off

<gb> matatk, issues and names were already off.


<matatk> w3c/a11y-review#178

matatk: we have a window to make changes to api for above mentioned subtopic

Allow additional elements to be considered labelable

<matatk> w3c/a11y-review#167

<Fazio> I'm more concerned with show picker

matatk: idea to add lables to some more html elements eg. textarea

PaulG: lable should behave like a label only

janina: +1

PaulG: need testing with different browser and AT combination to check focusable property of editable content

Media query to prefer shapes over colours

<matatk> w3c/a11y-review#126

<Fazio> stroop effect for color is a problem too

<Fazio> I continue to flip the wrong gas switch in peru because green minus means gas off and red flame means on

<Fazio> I interpret green as on red as off

matatk: why to prefer shapes over colours

<Fazio> I am neurodivergent

<Fazio> brain injury

<Fazio> More to neurodivergernce than autism and adhd

matatk: default should be both colour and shape and option should be there to switch between the two

Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues

Privacy Principles

<Roy> - issue: w3c/a11y-request#74

<Roy> - URL of spec:https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/DNOTE-privacy-principles-20240226/

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/DNOTE-privacy-principles-20240226/

matatk: need to review this and need volunteers to do this

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

MiniApp Addressing

<Roy> - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/WD-miniapp-addressing-20240131/

CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

Task Force & Deliverables Updates

matatk: several issues from rqtf

Request for meeting from WebRTC

<matatk> https://www.w3.org/TR/raur/

<Roy> A recurring topic at the intersection of WebRTC and accessibility has been the integration of real-time text (RTT) in WebRTC-based services. See for instance:

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/2019/09/20-apa-minutes.html#item02

<Roy> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-wai/2020Sep/0030.html

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/2021/REC-webrtc-20210126/#accessibility-considerations

<Roy> We have been recently notified by the author of the relevant IETF RFC that that work has now concluded:

<Roy> w3c/webrtc-pc#2931

<Roy> Unfortunately, based on the assessment of two of the co-chairs of the WebRTC WG (including Bernard Aboba who is directly involved in the relevant FCC work in the US), the said RFC is not fit for purpose, nor implementable.

<Roy> To compound that situation, according to Bernard, that unsatisfactory solution is going to become part of the EU regulation on the matter, via:

<Roy> https://portal.etsi.org/STF/STFs/STF-Homepages/STF605

<Roy> https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/03.02.01_60/en_301549v030201p.pdf#page=30

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