Meeting minutes
<lisa> pick a scribe?
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<JMcSorley> Lisa: Having to change the agenda a bit because we have some members who were not able to attend.
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<JMcSorley> Lisa: Lisa wrote some instructions on how to do a literary review - we will use the last half of the meeting to cover those instructions.
<JMcSorley> Rain: I need to follow up with the architecture group to work on wording of where the patterns will be in the structure and then we need to figure out how to prototype and test the new structure.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: I think we have an issue paper that needs to be reviewed on the Way Finding paper.
<JMcSorley> Becca: The way finding paper is done, it just needs a couple of tweaks.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: General r
<JMcSorley> Lisa General research - Beccas is working on wayfinding and conversational issue papers
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Abby is doing a lit review on updating ADHD
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Tiffany is working on symbols issue paper
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Mental Health is doing quite nicely - there are some additional papers that need to be done. Rashmi is working on an issue paper and Lisa wrote one as well, but things are moving well with this group.
<JMcSorley> Rain: We have a structure meeting this Thursday - we need to figure out how to prototype and test.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Our main focus is on getting the new version of Content Usable up and running
<JMcSorley> Rain: Images are on hold until we have agreement on the content structure
<JMcSorley> Rachael: W
<JMcSorley> Rachael: WCAG 3.0 - we have stood up a subgroup to continue the conversation around how we want to publish WCAG 3.0, but I don't think there's anything going on right now that will directly impact COGA
<JMcSorley> Rachael: During the next round, we will be picking up the next 5 or 6 issues and COGA will likely be involved in that.
<JMcSorley> Rachael: During the next round, we will be picking up the next 5 or 6 issues and COGA will likely be involved in than English.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Internationalization is an area we are addressing is Internationalization.
<JMcSorley> Rachael: The next step is to reach out to Internationalization; Jan needs to do this outreach
<JMcSorley> Lisa: I believe Rachael was going to reach out to the AGWG chairs, which she has done and then Lisa was going to write an email to introduce Jan and then Jan can start her outreach. Once Internationalization has signed off and/or identified a co-chair, then Lisa will set up the community group.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Testing strategy for Making Content Usable is on hold
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<JMcSorley> Lisa: GitHub editors - the mental health subgroup was discussing the need to put things into GitHub. This is a bit complicated. Lisa is going to invite people who want to edit documents in GitHub to a training. If this is of interest to you, please let Lisa know.
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<JMcSorley> Jan: If interested, please plus 1
<kirkwood> +1
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<JMcSorley> Lisa: I am going to put in a training page, similar to what I did for conducting meetings.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: *training page for how to edit in GitHub
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<JMcSorley> Lisa: People are saying that they are feeling a lot of pressure and the timeline can help us focus on what we are required to do and when these things are due.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: We need to do an editor's draft on the upcoming issue papers - due by May so that we can get them into an editor's draft
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Right now, we are working on an editor's draft - which is an internal draft and the the literary reviews we need for the issue papers.
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<JMcSorley> Lisa: There are two links for reviewing issue papers. The first is a spreadsheet / data base. The other link is the research plan, which gives you the instructions.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: We put information about each search we do into the appendix - Lisa and Eric have been working on this - stage 1 is doing these searches and putting papers that we think are interesting or relevant and putting them in to the database for review.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Key takeaways can be found quickly in the abstract - this is not a full review of the paper
<JMcSorley> Lisa: After people find papers that might be relevant, then the next step is that other people read the papers to pull out important information.
<JMcSorley> Becca: For the papers I have been working on, I have research copied at the bottom of the draft - do you also want them in this database?
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Yes, because we want one place where people can find papers - if they're in the database, then we will know if the paper has been read.
<tburtin> I found this additional site with AI assistance for searching research: https://
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Doing the actual review of the paper you first go to the spreadsheet and find an article that you think is interesting (columns J and K) - each row is a different paper.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Put your name in column C for the reviewer name so that everyone else will know not to read that particular paper.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: The next thing to do is read the paper. If there's a link, it will be in column N
<JMcSorley> Lisa: If you go to the link and there's a pay wall that keeps you from reading the article, please bring it back to the group because someone may have access to it.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Look for new ideas that are not yet covered in the COGA documents - it's better to overshoot than undershoot, so if you don't know if something is covered in COGA, go ahead and list it because other people will be reviewing your findings and will catch it if something is already in COGA
<JMcSorley> Lisa: If there is anything new, please put it in the key takeaway column.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: As you're reading the article, look for interesting ideas and themes that might help us when we are looking to update patterns. The more information you can fill out on the row of your article, the better.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: In column D, try to list what the paper supports so that when we are working on various papers, we can easily find papers that apply
<JMcSorley> Lisa: We have all the patterns listed in column F - if the paper applies to done of these, please select it here. In column G, you can list secondary ideas - this is an open field where you can list additional ideas.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Column O is about mental health specifically
<JMcSorley> Lisa: column P - the type of study - qualitative or quantitative and please list the number of participants
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Column Q - list your initial impression of the quality of the research (Excellent, Good, OK, poor, or very poor
<JMcSorley> Lisa: column U - is there a need for a new pattern or column V, make sure that ideas are included in existing patterns
<JMcSorley> Lisa: When you're done, mark it as done in column B
<JMcSorley> Tiffany: Where are all the COGA documents stored?
<JMcSorley> Lisa: in the actions page, there's a section on Links
<lisa> and https://
<JMcSorley> Lisa: we also have a key documents page, which is a little out-of-date, but still useful
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Do people want to stay on the call for about a half hour so that we can do a paper together?
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Do people want to stay on the line?
<Jennie> * Thank you for the review. I can't stay on, but should get to mine in the next 2 weeks.
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Do people feel comfortable doing this individually?
<JMcSorley> Lisa: Does anyone want me to schedule a time another day for literary reviews?
<BeccaMonteleone> I'm open to working on it now - I am currently inputing the wayfinding docs