15:21:16 RRSAgent has joined #coga 15:21:21 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/02/26-coga-irc 15:21:21 RRSAgent, make logs Public 15:21:22 Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference 15:21:39 scribe: EA 15:22:24 agenda+ 15:22:28 agenda? 15:23:00 agenda+ subgroups updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc 15:23:13 agenda+ update from AG 15:28:35 Regrets+ Julie , Eric 15:29:29 Agenda+ github edotors. Who wants to be on a call? 15:29:46 agenda+ take some pressure off. Reducing the pressuerhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBu9OhGoMG4lLDBRaRFZZxGoNWW-aDkKkVKrypfPvVc/edit 15:31:03 agenda+ if possible - conversational issue papers https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B1vCqlU1IF5UmqxhJAy8Khdi-kRQNPalVX8f3lCMr7w/edit#heading=h.9j8rnhzb9sv8 15:36:29 regrets+ Jennie 15:50:20 ack next 15:55:03 agenda+ doing a litary review see the database at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Cu_qVP1WBz2TbsrAjLbbeb55RAlJmu9kfHamriL1Ocs/edit#gid=1686096268 AND instuctions at : Step 4 Read the selected articles thoroughly and evaluate them. at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wu0WYcvCpp-zIz2NzPk2AuTJOrzgh3T4sKQgzCa10ps/edit#heading=h.jhgeh79yam7t 15:59:07 RRSAgent, publish minutes 15:59:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/26-coga-minutes.html lisa 16:01:38 abbey has joined #coga 16:01:39 JMcSorley has joined #coga 16:01:54 present+ Jan 16:01:56 Rain has joined #coga 16:01:59 present+ 16:02:48 pick a scribe? 16:02:50 Jennie has joined #coga 16:03:01 zakim, pick a scribe 16:03:01 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Rain 16:04:25 scribe: Jan 16:04:27 tburtin has joined #coga 16:04:45 present+ 16:04:47 agenda? 16:04:59 close item 2 16:05:07 niamh has joined #coga 16:05:14 Lisa: Having to change the agenda a bit because we have some members who were not able to attend. 16:05:37 BeccaMonteleone has joined #COGA 16:05:44 close item 5 16:06:26 present+ 16:06:38 present+ 16:07:01 Lisa: Lisa wrote some instructions on how to do a literary review - we will use the last half of the meeting to cover those instructions. 16:07:03 present+ 16:07:52 kirkwood has joined #COGA 16:08:26 Rain: I need to follow up with the architecture group to work on wording of where the patterns will be in the structure and then we need to figure out how to prototype and test the new structure. 16:09:04 Lisa: I think we have an issue paper that needs to be reviewed on the Way Finding paper. 16:09:18 Becca: The way finding paper is done, it just needs a couple of tweaks. 16:09:42 Lisa: General r 16:10:07 Lisa General research - Beccas is working on wayfinding and conversational issue papers 16:10:42 Lisa: Abby is doing a lit review on updating ADHD 16:12:05 Lisa: Tiffany is working on symbols issue paper 16:12:49 Lisa: Mental Health is doing quite nicely - there are some additional papers that need to be done. Rashmi is working on an issue paper and Lisa wrote one as well, but things are moving well with this group. 16:13:38 Rain: We have a structure meeting this Thursday - we need to figure out how to prototype and test. 16:14:39 Lisa: Our main focus is on getting the new version of Content Usable up and running 16:14:52 Rain: Images are on hold until we have agreement on the content structure 16:15:45 Rachael: W 16:16:29 Rachael: WCAG 3.0 - we have stood up a subgroup to continue the conversation around how we want to publish WCAG 3.0, but I don't think there's anything going on right now that will directly impact COGA 16:17:02 Rachael: During the next round, we will be picking up the next 5 or 6 issues and COGA will likely be involved in that. 16:18:38 Rachael: During the next round, we will be picking up the next 5 or 6 issues and COGA will likely be involved in than English. 16:21:32 q+ 16:22:09 ack next 16:22:34 Lisa: Internationalization is an area we are addressing is Internationalization. 16:23:30 Rachael: The next step is to reach out to Internationalization; Jan needs to do this outreach 16:24:50 Lisa: I believe Rachael was going to reach out to the AGWG chairs, which she has done and then Lisa was going to write an email to introduce Jan and then Jan can start her outreach. Once Internationalization has signed off and/or identified a co-chair, then Lisa will set up the community group. 16:25:06 Lisa: Testing strategy for Making Content Usable is on hold 16:25:21 next item 16:25:27 close item 1 16:25:29 next item 16:26:53 Lisa: GitHub editors - the mental health subgroup was discussing the need to put things into GitHub. This is a bit complicated. Lisa is going to invite people who want to edit documents in GitHub to a training. If this is of interest to you, please let Lisa know. 16:27:20 1 16:27:20 Jan: If interested, please plus 1 16:27:41 +1 16:28:36 + from tiffany 16:28:48 Lisa: I am going to put in a training page, similar to what I did for conducting meetings. 16:29:11 Lisa: *training page for how to edit in GitHub 16:29:16 next item 16:29:58 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBu9OhGoMG4lLDBRaRFZZxGoNWW-aDkKkVKrypfPvVc/edit#heading=h.ykqwx9vsxdya 16:30:45 Lisa: People are saying that they are feeling a lot of pressure and the timeline can help us focus on what we are required to do and when these things are due. 16:31:42 Lisa: We need to do an editor's draft on the upcoming issue papers - due by May so that we can get them into an editor's draft 16:33:21 Lisa: Right now, we are working on an editor's draft - which is an internal draft and the the literary reviews we need for the issue papers. 16:33:21 next item 16:34:48 Lisa: There are two links for reviewing issue papers. The first is a spreadsheet / data base. The other link is the research plan, which gives you the instructions. 16:36:12 Lisa: We put information about each search we do into the appendix - Lisa and Eric have been working on this - stage 1 is doing these searches and putting papers that we think are interesting or relevant and putting them in to the database for review. 16:37:44 q+ 16:38:05 Lisa: Key takeaways can be found quickly in the abstract - this is not a full review of the paper 16:39:04 ack next 16:39:13 Lisa: After people find papers that might be relevant, then the next step is that other people read the papers to pull out important information. 16:39:43 Becca: For the papers I have been working on, I have research copied at the bottom of the draft - do you also want them in this database? 16:40:17 Lisa: Yes, because we want one place where people can find papers - if they're in the database, then we will know if the paper has been read. 16:40:41 I found this additional site with AI assistance for searching research: https://www.semanticscholar.org/ 16:41:28 Lisa: Doing the actual review of the paper you first go to the spreadsheet and find an article that you think is interesting (columns J and K) - each row is a different paper. 16:42:55 Lisa: Put your name in column C for the reviewer name so that everyone else will know not to read that particular paper. 16:43:35 Lisa: The next thing to do is read the paper. If there's a link, it will be in column N 16:44:29 Lisa: If you go to the link and there's a pay wall that keeps you from reading the article, please bring it back to the group because someone may have access to it. 16:46:04 Lisa: Look for new ideas that are not yet covered in the COGA documents - it's better to overshoot than undershoot, so if you don't know if something is covered in COGA, go ahead and list it because other people will be reviewing your findings and will catch it if something is already in COGA 16:46:37 Lisa: If there is anything new, please put it in the key takeaway column. 16:48:03 Lisa: As you're reading the article, look for interesting ideas and themes that might help us when we are looking to update patterns. The more information you can fill out on the row of your article, the better. 16:48:52 Lisa: In column D, try to list what the paper supports so that when we are working on various papers, we can easily find papers that apply 16:49:59 q? 16:50:39 Lisa: We have all the patterns listed in column F - if the paper applies to done of these, please select it here. In column G, you can list secondary ideas - this is an open field where you can list additional ideas. 16:52:21 Lisa: Column O is about mental health specifically 16:52:51 Lisa: column P - the type of study - qualitative or quantitative and please list the number of participants 16:53:50 Lisa: Column Q - list your initial impression of the quality of the research (Excellent, Good, OK, poor, or very poor 16:55:18 Lisa: column U - is there a need for a new pattern or column V, make sure that ideas are included in existing patterns 16:55:30 Q? 16:55:56 Lisa: When you're done, mark it as done in column B 16:56:46 Tiffany: Where are all the COGA documents stored? 16:57:14 Lisa: in the actions page, there's a section on Links 16:57:15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.h4l5bbbl6v8e 16:57:29 and https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Key_Documents 16:57:36 Lisa: we also have a key documents page, which is a little out-of-date, but still useful 16:58:06 Lisa: Do people want to stay on the call for about a half hour so that we can do a paper together? 16:58:24 Lisa: Do people want to stay on the line? 16:58:37 * Thank you for the review. I can't stay on, but should get to mine in the next 2 weeks. 16:58:38 Lisa: Do people feel comfortable doing this individually? 16:58:57 Lisa: Does anyone want me to schedule a time another day for literary reviews? 16:59:06 I'm open to working on it now - I am currently inputing the wayfinding docs 16:59:20 RRSAgent, publish minutes 16:59:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/26-coga-minutes.html lisa 16:59:46 * Have to drop. Have a good week! 17:00:38 * dropping off, thank you all! 17:00:50 I need to drop. 17:50:51 jamesn has joined #COGA 19:37:23 kirkwood has joined #COGA 20:11:18 kirkwood has joined #COGA 21:41:15 kirkwood has joined #COGA