W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 1

17 January 2024

Attendees

Present
Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato, Mahda_Noura, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
Ege, Koster
Scribe
Ege

Meeting minutes

Agenda

Koster: any changes or feedback to the agenda?

Ege: one agenda per week from now on

Koster: also we will review minutes accordingly
… wednesday of last week on wednesday of this week etc.

Minutes Review

<kaz> Jan-11

Kaz: I will fix the names

Kaz: there was a confusion with the links, now it should be fine

https://www.w3.org/2024/01/10-wot-td-minutes.html

Koster: Jan-10 minutes approved

<kaz> ss/html/html Jan-10 (which actually to be reviewed :)/

Resources

PR 1940

<kaz> PR 1940 - Fixing the Ontology HTML files to static versions

Koster: should we review all files

Ege: no we have left it open for a week so that people can review

PR 1933

<kaz> s|minuts.html|minuts.html Jan-10 (which actually to be reviewed :)|

<kaz> PR 1933 - toolchain description update

<kaz> big picture of the tool chain

Mahda: Ege has reviewed it and we have fixed some issues

Koster: it seems that quite some review went into it and this really closes a gap

Kaz: we should split the image and have an explanation so that a non-expert can use it

Ege: we cannot split the image since they are linked
… and we cannot expect a non-expert to use it

Kaz: we need to know what is written and when

Ege: this is explained with the legend of the figure

Mahda: this is correct. The legend and arrows explain it

Mahda: I cannot provide more details, unless we explain "how to write an ontology"

Ege: Maybe we need to understand if kaz means a specific format

Koster: small arrow issue on top

Kaz: a short explanation like, change this ttl file and apply this script to get HTML

Koster: maybe what you want is a more abstract figure, not splitting into smaller files

Mizushima: what kind of IoT network is used and how are the TDs generated?

Mahda: this is the tool for the specification. we do not manually edit the index.html

Kaz: maybe you use one big script but there are modules right? they can be explained separately. that kind of high-level description would be useful for maintenance purposes, specifically in case the original author lefts the WoT WG.

Koster: Will it be similar for someone creating a binding?

Mahda: it is similar

Ege: yes, some steps are not needed

Cristiano: about 80% similar I would say

Koster: we can merge right

Ege: yes

Jan: I did a similar thing for discovery. I think we can write a more generic tooling

Koster: really good point

TD

PR 1945

<kaz> PR 1945 - Assertion id alignment

Kaz: OK with merging this PR 1945 itself, but we should make this a policy

Ege: I can provide that to the wot repository

Koster: yeah that way we have a set working way

wot PR 1165

<kaz> wot PR 1165 - Initial expansion of the DataMapping work item

Koster: Luca, could you explain?

Luca: I have expanded the description based on the description from last week

Luca: we can extend this into a use case
… but we had talk about it already last year

Koster: we have a small discussion

Ege: we discussed yesterday. For me it is clear but I am not sure if it is for everyone

Luca: there is a proposal to rename it

Koster: maybe out of band

Luca: actually it is inband

Koster: or data that is not consumed by application?

Luca: actually it is consumed

Luca: (explains the examples)

Koster: ok I get it now

Cristiano: luca confirmed but basically I wanted to ask whether we also consider complex payloads

Kaz: this discussion is a good starting point, but we should sync with the use cases task force. for example, once the updated use case template is published by the Use Cases TF, we (as the TD TF) should clarify this idea based on that updated template.
… and use the new template

Koster: I agree

Ege: we need to be able to convey such technical information in the new use case template
… but we already have the requirements sort of ready
… maybe we should say that (sadly) td can express one channel and we need to express more

Luca: except uri variables
… I will work on it this week but I will need help

Koster: any other points?
… adjourned

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023 UTC).