<JohnRochford> Julie, would you please email me the Zoom invite info?
<julierawe> Jeanne said Rachael confirmed we are OK to share working draft with list of outcomes and 1 test for Common words
<JohnRochford> Julie, would you please email me the Zoom invite info? (Would someone please tell me they are seeing this message?)
<julierawe> Jeanne said the latest thinking is to share the working draft via survey so we get feedback on this is what happens when you narrow the outcomes
<julierawe> John: I'll email you
<JohnRochford> ok tx
<julierawe> John: I just emailed you
We will go through the last 6 items in our outcomes.
<JohnRochford> Kirkwood, thank you for helping me get into this meeting.
Julie changed no. 15 to say the more common Topic Sentence as the bold lead in.
Next step on 19 - focus on using White Space and how it gets used.
Becca: should we call it blank space not white space for accuracy.
Julie: Clear background is now separated out as slightly different.
Jeanne: clear background makes it a lot easier to read something.
John R: agrees but it's not always about colour constrast; could also be about patterns.
Yes I think that's clearer now
John K: text over photos is a common problem
John K: amended to - graphic designers do not commonly do this but where it exists it is problematic for people with visual processing issues
John K: worried about scope creep. Important but should this be included in clear language?
<kirkwood> John K/John F
<kirkwood> John F: appearance of test is not plain language
<kirkwood> John F: appearance of text is not plain language
John R: same issue as facial expressions
Becca: number 19 - blank space is an element of visual spacing, and less about visual appearance of text but arrangement of text. Can this be included in chunking?
Julie: if chunking is an outcome, we return to clustering problem
<kirkwood> [my bad. not John F I meant John R, argh] ;)
John R, Jeanne, John K, Katy, Becca recommend removing Clear background from our outcomes
Jeanne thinks no 21 belongs here, rather than elsewhere
Julia: suggests media not document
Julie: audio/media is included in Making Content Usable.
John R: more and more video content
Julie: should the meta description below the video be in plain language
Julie: should navigation of videos via chapters be included here?
John K: plain language summary of videos is very important
John K: in Youtube videos sectioning is built in. We should include in our outcomes.
Julie: should we include it in section lengths?
John R: good to include video in section length. We should review outcomes and think about how it applies to video
Becca: should we change name of this to supplement?
Julie: should change to supplement for numerical concepts too.
Julie: Santina Croniser suggests in margin to include 'avoid infinitives'. Julie to add as an example.
Julie: Will discuss this on Monday COGA group and Jeanne will share further.
John R: we should practice what we preach and add images where we can.
Julie: agrees. wants to know if general direction is OK first, then when we build this out we can add images.
John R: suggests when we present that we tell people we plan to add images.