Meeting minutes
Agenda Review & Announcements
matatk: nothing new
TPAC 2023 planning - https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2023
matatk: TPAC website is up
<matatk> Official site: https://
matatk: same request: need to know which other working groups we want to talk to
matatk: feedback welcome, send if you can
Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
matatk: nothing new this week
Review list separators WHATWG issue
<matatk> #322
<ghurlbot> Action 322 Review list separators WHATWG issue (on mbeganyi)
<matatk> Mike's review: https://
matatk: can query a database of web pages to determine how common the pattern is
PaulG: concerned about the lack of semantics. why wouldn't you use a nested list and have CSS put a line in on a subgroup to delineate?
janina: agree
Lionel_Wolberger: agree as well
PaulG: it's not just a visual rule, there are some semantics
<PaulG> https://
PaulG: semantics match separation but not grouping
PaulG: semantic and visual separation are distinct
PaulG: a case where you want semantics and visual to match
matatk: if common, we need to legitimize and verify. encourage authors to do things semantically correct
matatk: this might be a lighter-weight approach versus other methods (nested lists)
matatk: if standardized, then AT developers can choose how to announce the nested grouping
janina: can use CSS for that (announcing lines)
matatk: regardless, something should come across to the user as opposed to getting ignored. getting the info in the DOM reported in some way and the ATs can determine how to do it, it's just up to us to give the opportunity
janina: what does this issue attempt to solve? what can be achieved here that can't already be done by other existent methods?
PaulG: would be worth consulting WHATWG archive to see how this is implemented
matatk: need to determine how widely used this is, and also pass this to Low Vision Task Force,
matatk: monitor WHATWG thread for any updates, discuss on call next week
A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
PaulG: last week was about animation API, discussing difficulty of animation accessibility
Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://github.com/w3c/apa/labels/action et al
matatk: I had an action, closed it and e-mailed list last week
Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
Task Force & Deliverables Updates
Adapt
<matatk> https://
<matatk> ^ Adapt Meeting regarding the Children's Pedagogical Ontology
matatk: Adapt and Web Accessibility in general, as they apply
<Gottfried> UDL: https://
Maturity Model
janina: continues to move forward, another year or so for established work timeline
janina: HTML frontend, currently prototyped in a spreadsheet. important that users house their own data
RQTF
janina: continuining to talk about synchronization and chapter markings. asking WHATWG about how to mark up media. right now it's all one level. discussion around sublevels
janina: using of AAC tend to prefer to look at media as opposed to read, hence importance
Pronunciation
matatk: putting finishing touches on e-mail to AT vendors regarding SSL.
matatk: working on statement about new task force, FAST, more on that soon
Other Business
PaulG: I learned recently that the word triptych—method of explaining to someone, explaining it, then explain it again. never saw textbooks that follows this method until recently: start with the conclusion first. so helpful in many contexts.
<PaulG> https://
matatk: please share the book if you find it, Paul
Be done
<PaulG> https://