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ACT Rules Community Group Teleconference

13 Apr 2023

Attendees

Present
CarlosD, Jean-Yves, dan_tripp, Helen_, ToddL, Wilco_, Sean, trevor, giacomo-petri
Regrets
Chair
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Scribe
CarlosD

Contents


<dan_tripp> https://irc.w3.org/?channels=#act-r

<Sean> present

scribe+ CarlosD

Call for review https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/461

Jean-Yves: Nothing in call for review

Assigned issues + help wanted https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues?page=1&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen

<Jean-Yves> Carlos: waiting for reviews on 1560.

<trevor> https://github.com/act-rules/act-tools/pull/22

Jean-Yves: Doing work on #1777 to show javascript and css when they are in the examples... it's in the ACT-Tools repo, could use a review from Wilco
... also working on #1994 and #1923

<Helen_> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2047

Helen_: Updated the "about us" page
... need reviews on it (#2047)

<trevor> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2036

trevor: #2036 is breaking the rule into multiple rules and adding a new rule

<trevor> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/discussions/2046

trevor: In the TF there has been a lot of discussion on how to put states in rules
... everyone, have a look at the discussion and leave comments there

Wilco_: work on ARIA rules and other TF related work

dan_tripp: been looking at the visible label rule and I believe I can solve two of the three open issues

Wilco_: Kathy is also working on this rule, so we should make sure not to duplicate work

Sean: working on #1866 and found that capitalization impacts what AT presents

giacomo-petri: #2007 is almost done, so reviews are welcome

Update from the ACT Task Force https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/522/files

<Wilco_> https://deploy-preview-200--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/bisz58/proposed/#accessibility-requirements-mapping

Wilco_: working on new design for secondary requirements

Jean-Yves: Looking good

Wilco_: Two new implementations

<Wilco_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/act/implementations/

Wilco_: both from Total Validator
... Trevor has been working on states... we should have this on the agenda soon

trevor: it would be good if everyone looked at the issue in advance

autoplay rule [x0paj4] failed examples don't autoplay in major browsers https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/2030

Update from the ACT Task Force https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/522/files

Update from Manual Test Rules subgroups https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1952

Helen_: Chris is taking up rules on two new SC
... and looking for volunteers for new rules

autoplay rule [x0paj4] failed examples don't autoplay in major browsers https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/2030

CG F2F meeting at TPAC

Jean-Yves: TPAC will be help in Spain, mid September
... TPAC is asking if we want to organize a face to face
... and it could be a good opportunity to talk to other groups
... we need to reply by early May if we want to organize and how many people will attend

Wilco_: Looking at people from ACT to join... myself and Daniel will attend
... are other people considering to join a two day meeting there?

<Wilco_> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/registration.html

Jean-Yves: I should be able to attend

CarlosD: Can non W3C members join?

Wilco_: Yes
... TPAC is a conference so there will be a fee to join
... The meeting is an hybrid meeting, but managed by TPAC, so I'm not sure if non registered participants could join on the remote call

CarlosD: I'm also planning to attend

autoplay rule [x0paj4] failed examples don't autoplay in major browsers https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/2030

Jean-Yves: examples that have an autoplay attributes don't autoplay, until sometime later it autoplays... it seems the browser decides when to autoplay... it's the Media Engagement index on Chrome
... but it impacts the testing of the rules
... so, modern browsers block autoplay when you don't want it
... should we deprecate the rule, because AT solves the issue, event though the SC is still valid?
... or do we keep, even though we will have examples that go agains the accessibility support?

Sean: does the autoplay still blocks after engaging with the page?

Jean-Yves: I don't recall, but when testing with alfa if autoplayed sometimes

Wilco_: So if you interact with the page, a script won't be blocked?

CarlosD: I believe that is the current browser policy, but I haven't tested yet, so I'm not 100% sure

Wilco_: How consistent is that?

CarlosD: Not sure, since I haven't tested

Wilco_: Should that SC be a secondary requirement?

Jean-Yves: That could be a solution
... Adding an accessibility support section

Wilco_: We should make sure we add what we learned in this

Consider case sensitivity in ARIA rules https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1866

Jean-Yves: writing attributes with upper case breaks some combinations of UA and AT, but not others
... We will need and accessibility support stating the case might impact how AT operates
... and that's why we don't have examples with different case, because they might fail if the comparison is not case insensitive

Wilco_: Do we need to this to every ARIA rule?

Jean-Yves: We should copy the accessibility support note to all

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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