W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 March 2023

Attendees

Present
addison, Atsushi, Eemeli, Felix, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard
Regrets
-
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison_, atsushi

Meeting minutes

trackbot, prepare teleconference

<fsasaki> +fsasaki

Agenda Review

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

addison: 1129, writing but not finished yet

addison: 1237, for issue 1651 undergo

r12a: 1245, go around finally, bidi-documents we have, we have bidi definition in glossary
… I wasn't quite sure which form we are missing
… gonna suggest we have what we want, and to define spilit over

addison: I will take 1245 then

r12a: not specifically in string-meta, but could link to glossary

r12a: 1247, still open

xfq: 1248, completed
… we don't need to change review issue template, but could do with adding

<xfq_> close ACTION-1248

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-1248.

w3c/i18n-glossary#22?

<ghurlbot> Issue 22 Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary (r12a)

<Github> w3c/i18n-glossary#22 : Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary

r12a: 1250, in progress

addison: 1252, filed form for upcoming TPAC
… on Mon and Tue

addison: 1253, filed request, stillworking at the PR, will work later today

addison: filed, waiting for responce

Tanych/accept-language#10?

<ghurlbot> Issue 10 I18N objections to reducing accept-language (aphillips)

<Github> Tanych/accept-language#10 : I18N objections to reducing accept-language

Info Share

RADAR Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

addison: no new incoming

r12a: css-text-3 under working

bert: found no issues in any of the changed sections. Noticed there is a lot of typographic knowledge contained in the spec, which looks expected with works over 20 years
… don't expect issues from rest of spec under checking, no need extension

<xfq_> s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA/css-text-3/

atsushi: working for one additional pending issue, need some more time

xfq: saw two specifications on WAI, and did not find any issue

Pending Issue Review

<xfq_> w3c/i18n-activity#996

xfq: one close?, we already have satisfied with resolution, so we could close this review
… added a comment on the issue

close w3c/i18n-activity#996

<ghurlbot> Cannot close issue w3c/i18n-activity#996. Forbidden.

<Github> w3c/i18n-activity#996 : Attribute with natural language but no language

<Github> w3c/i18n-activity#996 : Attribute with natural language but no language

Glossary

w3c/i18n-glossary#26?

<ghurlbot> Pull Request 26 Merge in new glossary items. (r12a)

<Github> w3c/i18n-glossary#26 : Merge in new glossary items.

addison: bunch of comments

addison: wait a while for people review it, or just merge it now?

felix: merging seems simpler

r12a: still have some item to work on
… on CLDR, we have a definition for expanded form

addison: one exported, and another at local, and link can work from us

r12a: which one should be exported or not, are required to be reviewed

[=CLDR=][[CLDR]]

addison: will resolve comment

IRIs and the URL spec: what's our policy here?

https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#resid_misc

addison: fundamental question, are we happy with our current recommendation on IRIs?

w3c/rdf-concepts#15

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/IRIStatus

addison: what we tell people to do on IRIs, URLs are only for browsers

r12a: no additional comment

addison: I'm ok with saying this is merquee area, although
… we deprecated in char-mod

Publish N'Ko Layout Requirements as FPWD Note?

addison: publish as FPNOTE?

https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/

r12a: been attracting attention from colleagues working on African languages
… we've been talking about font styles
… another one related to compound words,

addison: publish as FPNOTE? first publish is people to look in

addison: we need to vote for publishing

<Bert> +1

+1

+1

<r12a-again> +1

<JcK> +1

<xfq_> +1

RESOLUTION: publish n'ko layout requirements as first public note

addison: resolved, and let'spublish

r12a: similar to counter style, referred by CSS spec.
… counter style for this, dot after numeric character would go under these character
… could open question to colleagues

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/#cs_ordinal

xfq: one editorial, shortname should be fixed

Update the W3C style guide I18N section?

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2023JanMar/0081.html

https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#I18n

addison: language subtags registry

%% Type: language Subtag: nqo Description: N'Ko Description: N’Ko

<r12a> ‎02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE

<r12a> U+2019: RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK

addison: long ago, this is defined, and worked on char-mod after

r12a: example is really weird...

[chat about history and old stories]

addison: deprecate bunch of these, and just point spec-dev or something else

<xfq_> https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#Markup

xfq: also i18n related things are in other sections also

r12a: probabry be wise to write Coralie before starting

ACTION: addison: write to coralie about the style guide

<ghurlbot> Sorry, I don't know what repository to use.

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1255 - Write to coralie about the style guide [on Addison Phillips - due 2023-03-23].

AOB?

[bert askes about github bot]

<Bert> ghurlbot, status?

<ghurlbot> Bert, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and no repositories are specified.

<r12a> ghurlbot --help

<r12a> ghurlbot help

<Bert> Github: help?

<Bert> Github, help?

close action-1254

<trackbot> Closed action-1254.

close action-1252

<trackbot> Closed action-1252.

close action-1250

<trackbot> Closed action-1250.

Summary of action items

  1. addison: write to coralie about the style guide

Summary of resolutions

  1. publish n'ko layout requirements as first public note
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 210 (Wed Jan 11 19:21:32 2023 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA,/found no issues in any of the changed sections. Noticed there is a lot of typographic knowledge contained in the spec, which/

Failed: s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA/css-text-3/

Succeeded: s/Colarie/Coralie/

Maybe present: bert, r12a, xfq

All speakers: addison, atsushi, bert, felix, r12a, xfq

Active on IRC: addison, addison_, atsushi, Bert, fsasaki, Github, JcK, r12a, r12a-again, xfq_