W3C

– DRAFT –
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

25 January 2023

Attendees

Present
Chuck, David-Swallow, janina, jasonjgw, John_Paton, Joshue, Joshue108, julierawe, Lisa, matatk, MichaelC, Rachael, scott_h, SteveNoble
Regrets
-
Chair
jasonjgw
Scribe
jasonjgw, SteveNoble

Meeting minutes

Meeting overview.

<Chuck> No camera for me, I am wearing my very early morning apparel (nobody needs see that :-))

MichaelC: Suggests turning on camera while speaking

Interpreter: please turn cameras off when not speaking

<Chuck> Michael, you are in queue, did you address your points?

Jason: Purpose of this meeting is to review the research process and find common themes and methods of collaboration

Jason: We can begin with introductions

Introductions from meeting participants.

Introductions all around...

Outline of Research Questions Task Force research process.

jasonjgw: Our task force commonly reviews research as part of accessibility reviews on various topics

jasonjgw: We have documented the general process we use on our TF

jasonjgw: The process is not rigid

jasonjgw: It is a progressive review process with multiple rounds

jasonjgw: There are multiple opportunities for commenters to suggest additional sources and issues

<Chuck> I will let Jason know of queue when there is a pause.

jasonjgw: The outline document provides additional details

jasonjgw: Multiple phases of the process are discussed

scott_h: Various members on the RQTF have different levels of access to journal libraries and we typically leverage that

scott_h: The document outlines the process quite well

Lisa: Some questions on the process

Opportunities for refinement, coordination and formal documentation of research methods.

Lisa: Have some comments on improvements

Lisa: One interest is what are the terms being used in research

Lisa: terms like "accessibility" often turns up heavily WCAG hits on web accessibility

Lisa: Should also broaden to terms like "learning disabilities" to not get overly focused on blindness

Lisa: This seems especially important to be more inclusive of disability types

Lisa: Also important to recognize who the stakeholders are

Lisa: Knowing who the stateholders are, and which groups do they represent

Lisa: Differences between member organizations and professional groups

<Chuck> Seeyou later Alastair

Lisa: Did the various groups get into the first round, the second round, etc.

Lisa: Also important to make sure that stakeholder groups are involved in the task force itself

<Lisa> +1 to rachael

<Rachael> https://w3c.github.io/fast/

Rachael: Seems like there is a valuable opportunity to create a note or wiki to document key terms and databases

Rachael: Are we supporting and documenting in a way to broaden this even beyond the W3C community

Lisa: How to do an inclusive literary review - we could ask organizations like TRACE if they have already done one and could share that with us

Lisa: We could reach out to stakeholders early on in the process

scott_h: The idea of a wiki for keywords sound like a great idea

<Lisa> as part of diverse recruiting for individual projects

<Lisa> we can reach out to stakeholders as a very early step

scott_h: We do initially try to get as many perspectives as possible

scott_h: The wiki would help in the initial process; we could also list external groups known for commonly conducting research

janina: capturing search strategies is an important point; we can capture the search terms and databases that have been included, for example

jasonjgw: Authors of papers will include additional sources which is always a means of expanding the research base

jasonjgw: Key words are important as a starting point

jasonjgw: Refine the outline and have a more organic presence on the wiki page seems like two actions to take

<janina> Did someone say "top ten?" I didn't hear that

Lisa: Commonly people will look at the top ten search results; but will not necessarily be inclusive of many disabilities

<Chuck> Lisa said that there are times that an accessibility doc may not be in the top 10 results.

Lisa: Suggests documenting what is credible

Lisa: For instance, is any W3C note considered credible?

Lisa: In the effort to reach out to various stakeholder groups, we need to make sure the method of conversation was accessible to that disability group

Lisa: We need to be inclusive in every stage of the process

jasonjgw: We have identified some next steps

scott_h: We have tried to communicate thus far and are trying to make those more inclusive

scott_h: We know some methods such as GitHub has challenges

scott_h: We focus primarily on peer-reviewed sources; but understand that these resources alone do not guarantee it being inclusive

<Lisa> best way to reach coga is to send us an email to the list

<Lisa> (coga list)

jasonjgw: Refining the process and having an open-ended process to document the steps used

janina: I believe we have agreement on that

Raja_Kushalnagar: We understand that within groups it is possible to get people from these groups to provide feedback

<Lisa> but there is a problem that all user needs get included early enough to fully contribute. we need to change that

<Chuck> Sorry, I had a hickup in VPN.

<Chuck> Answer to the question is 'Yes', I think these resources may be of great value.

<Chuck> +1 for follow up meeting

Lisa: COGA often feels that by the time it sees a product it is too late to add substantive feedback, so we were hoping to improve this problem

janina: Suggest some discussion with APA on this for further perspective

<Lisa> thank youu everyone!

Chuck: Agree with the suggested next steps

<Raja_Kushalnagar> For example, ASSETS conference focuses on accessible computing, and peer-reviews papers covering a diverse set of abilities/disabilities

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 210 (Wed Jan 11 19:21:32 2023 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/not rigit/not rigid/

Maybe present: Interpreter, Jason, Raja_Kushalnagar

All speakers: Chuck, Interpreter, janina, Jason, jasonjgw, Lisa, MichaelC, Rachael, Raja_Kushalnagar, scott_h

Active on IRC: Chuck, David-Swallow, janina, jasonjgw, Joshue108, JPaton, julierawe, Lisa, matatk, MichaelC, Rachael, Raja_Kushalnagar, scott_h, SteveNoble